Drunken Darkness
Ghosts, murder, chaos and mystery......add a heavy handed-shot of whiskey or bourbon and you've got the recipe for Drunken Darkness. A comedic, educational, and downright needed podcast. Join your hosts Mitch and Amanda Kiser as they talk stories of the macabre and mysterious. From gruesome murders, haunted happenings around the world to just plain weird and creepy. So, kick back, grab a cold one, and lets gets weird.
Drunken Darkness
The Secrets of Lawton's Limestone Labyrinth
We explore the mysterious Mushroom Mines of Lawton, Kentucky, diving into its rich history and the eerie legends that surround this abandoned underground complex. From limestone mine to mushroom farm to alleged cult gathering spot, these caves hold decades of fascinating stories that continue to draw curious visitors.
This episode also features a healthy dose of Appalachian humor, including Mitch's grandfather's colorful saying "Jump back and spit in my ass" - an expression of surprise that perfectly captures the reaction many have when learning about this hidden world beneath the Kentucky hills. Whether you believe in ghosts or not, the true history of the Mushroom Mines proves sometimes reality is more fascinating than any paranormal tale.
This deep dive into local lore was chosen by our first Patreon supporters, and we couldn't be more grateful they selected such a rich topic. Join us as we separate fact from fiction and explore why these abandoned tunnels continue to captivate visitors from across the country decades after their industrial purpose faded away.
Decalodian yeah, I'm hungry, so done.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, I'm hungry, so done.
Speaker 1:Why you have them big jobs. Yeah yeah, but that's what you thought after the first time we had sex. Well, you'll have it on them. Big jobs, too bad. There wasn't anything big, but the belly Broma fed for the win. For the win.
Speaker 2:For the wind.
Speaker 1:For the win, for the win.
Speaker 2:Bromaphed for the win. Ty in the wind.
Speaker 1:Ty in the wind. Who's Ty in the wind?
Speaker 2:Have you ever watched the movie Nell with Jodie Foster?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:No, she plays this girl that's been abandoned and kind of feral and she doesn't really talk normal and she gets out and she dances around. She'll go tie in the wind, Tie in the wind. We're going to have to watch it.
Speaker 1:That sounds insane.
Speaker 2:It is, it's wild.
Speaker 1:Is her name Tay?
Speaker 2:Nell.
Speaker 1:Nell, all right, then Makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2:I know right.
Speaker 1:What was that in? Oh yeah, wind, yeah yeah. What was that in? Oh yeah, window, yeah, oh. Wow, there's that, I'll let you boy.
Speaker 2:We'll have to rent that one as well.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Little mama, little mama.
Speaker 1:Little mama's house yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, little mama.
Speaker 2:Little mama, little mama's house, yeah, good, sorry, I don't know. Wow, I'm real weird. I am weird.
Speaker 1:Debit card on you currently Nope, oh man.
Speaker 2:Oh, we have to do it first.
Speaker 1:Well, let me see Dropbox no Adobe. Yes, we have to do it first. Well, let me see Dropbox no Adobe. Yes, I believe, but if you've got to get up, let me see. Well.
Speaker 2:You're welcome.
Speaker 1:Here we go. Uh, I don't know man.
Speaker 2:What is that? I just accidentally dropped a picture of Harrison Ford in the middle of my notes.
Speaker 1:I feel like you didn't accidentally drop it. Apparently, you might scope out Harrison Ford.
Speaker 2:I was trying to pull down and I pulled a picture of Harrison Ford down.
Speaker 1:How did that happen, though?
Speaker 2:No, I Right so he didn't just oh, right here, because it was here.
Speaker 1:So you were looking at pictures of Harrison Ford.
Speaker 2:No, we were looking him up last night because we couldn't remember his name.
Speaker 1:We weren't?
Speaker 2:Yes, we were. You were just in and out of sleep while we done it. I was like you know the guy from Star Wars. He drove the Millennium Falcon I can't remember his name, harrison Ford's character and you couldn't think of it and you were like you're really just going to leave us hanging. So I Googled it Last night.
Speaker 1:I don't remember that.
Speaker 2:And I was like, yeah, han Solo, that's it. You don't remember any of that. No See, I knew you. Okay, it wouldn't be a problem to redo this because you don't remember nothing. You remember talking about ball lightning A little bit.
Speaker 1:Okay, you remember talking about ball lightning A little bit.
Speaker 2:Did that bust your ear? That didn't, but that's picking up.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, if they're snacking, I don't know. We don't just wait until tomorrow. I don't want to do this three times and if we get halfway into it and he starts, it's just going to ruin it. Ruin it, ruin, ruins, it will ruin it. I'll look like that guy when I'm coming out of this room.
Speaker 2:So I kept talking about that, the TV.
Speaker 1:I remember the TV show flashing behind my head and I was like that looks like a good show. I remember the TV show flashing behind my head and I was like that looks like a good show. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, putting the pups up. Putting the pups up, doing it, doing it, doing it, doing it well.
Speaker 1:Wow, I like when I record all this, so we have all that.
Speaker 2:I know Are you recording.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, I've been recording for four and a half minutes.
Speaker 2:Four and a half minutes Four minute.
Speaker 1:four minute. Yep got you being racist on there too. I'm not being racist, I'm pretty sure going four minute.
Speaker 2:Four minute is racist, it is not. Who are you making fun of? I'm not making fun of anybody. Four minute is racist, it is not.
Speaker 1:Who are you making fun of? I'm not making fun of anybody. Oh yeah, no certain no. No, you just. A lot of Caucasians talk like that.
Speaker 2:This Caucasian talks like that.
Speaker 1:Do you? We've been together for three, four years. Have I ever heard you go four minute four?
Speaker 2:minute yeah, like the other day it's like two minute, two minute. You, you eat too much and make masks. Two minutes, two minutes. Oh, I'm so sorry, so sorry. Now, who's?
Speaker 1:being racist. I don't think I've been racist. What's that show called? One, what One peck One. What Peace. One piece, one piece. That's a hell of a number.
Speaker 2:What is that Anime?
Speaker 1:Peaky Blinders yes, all right.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 1:Louder than hell, boys. Louder than hell. That's all right, can't help it. You're coughing, you're coughing.
Speaker 2:Give it hell, hell's bells. That's 90s show.
Speaker 1:Look how young he was, look how young everybody was that was a whole different. Oh, 90s. Fuck, I didn't know it was a thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they brought it back. They're grandparents now.
Speaker 1:No, I had no idea. Cool Didn't know. I was trying to find the little foreign exchange student. He just looked completely different. Because he looked completely different. And that's this 90s show, yeah, who had babies, the crazy whore sister.
Speaker 2:I don't, I thought she died. The sister died. Yes, she died. She was an alcoholic and she was killed in like a car accident or something. They killed her off.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that I'm trying to off. I didn't know that Take a comedy and you kill somebody off. We don't have time, I don't care, go ahead. I mean I don't care, but go ahead, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, lisa.
Speaker 2:Robin Kelly was an American actress. She was best known blah blah blah. Oh, she actually died in real life.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a horse of Derek Covey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was 43.
Speaker 1:Shit. When she did the show she was 43?.
Speaker 2:She died in 2013. Yeah, drug use, damn I'll let you Right.
Speaker 1:What was her name in the show? Yeah, drug use. Huh, Damn I'll let you Right.
Speaker 2:what was her name in the show?
Speaker 1:Shit.
Speaker 2:Lori.
Speaker 1:Lori.
Speaker 2:Is that?
Speaker 1:right, yeah, something like that, lori, you big whore. Something like that, Probably not like that.
Speaker 2:She checked herself into a treatment facility that week, battling addiction, and died.
Speaker 1:And then Hillary. Clinton said she committed suicide.
Speaker 2:Sure Hillary Clinton committed suicide to a lot of people I heard.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah okay, you know, because people wind up dead. Check it out, you'll watch that show. Zombie, zombie, zombie, zombie, zombie. Hey honky, what are we doing over here?
Speaker 2:We're just chilling well, she also lost a child which, like, increased her drug use.
Speaker 1:Yeah and yes yes, down with the sadness, up with Get down with the sickness. Sorry, alright, okay, wish you brought me a gummy. Can't bullshit that. Those are mine, those are mine, alright, dude, hunter times hunted, hunter times hunter.
Speaker 2:Two hunters, two hunters, make one, you still looking this up she really was like 40 when she was in the show, so they had her disappear. In season three she was written out of the series explaining that she went to beauty school. Cool, I really thought that they killed her off. I guess not.
Speaker 1:She just died in real life, cool season three she was written out of the series explaining that she went to beauty school.
Speaker 2:Cool, I really thought that they killed her off. I guess not.
Speaker 1:She just died in real life, cool, okay anyway couldn't uh deep dive probably cared a little more than nothing, but not not much more than nothing I need a massage on my back.
Speaker 2:That was so cute. That was a cute show. That's good. I don't know about that one Manifest. It's about a plane.
Speaker 1:But it couldn't come up missing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it was missing for a long time. Then I shut it. Five years I shut it five years later.
Speaker 1:It's their trip.
Speaker 2:And people have remarried and all sorts of stuff, because it was like everybody just thought they were dead.
Speaker 1:See, this is what you were known for when I was high, and now you're just rambling on about TV shows. You're just rambling on about TV shows.
Speaker 2:I'm not high, though.
Speaker 1:You are. You wouldn't be rambling on about fucking TV shows. I'm not high?
Speaker 2:You are? No, I'm not. I'd be giggling.
Speaker 1:That's why, right, I'd be like Maybe, okay, maybe, baby. Yeah, call me baby again. Baby, yeah, I yeah.
Speaker 2:I like that A little bit of ASMR for you.
Speaker 1:Do you like that? No, you don't have time.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:No, don't think so.
Speaker 2:Not into that, huh.
Speaker 1:Nope.
Speaker 2:I just whisper sweet nothings.
Speaker 1:Nope.
Speaker 2:Hey baby.
Speaker 1:It's okay.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Not as good as you know could be, but better than some.
Speaker 2:You're recording. Tell you all those things later.
Speaker 1:All right, are we going to do this?
Speaker 2:Let's do this yeah.
Speaker 1:Ready? Yeah, all right, here we go. Feels better when I have the music coming into it.
Speaker 2:It does it's hard, feels weird.
Speaker 1:Blake told me not to put it in there though, oh, okay. He was going to have to do something with it, so I didn't put it in, so. I just recorded this for 12 minutes talking.
Speaker 2:I like that. That's okay. We need to be able to cut and clip and have things.
Speaker 1:Let me do need to be able to like cut and clip and have things we do a shot. Yeah, you get ready and then I'm gonna start with the all shit. Last night you cut me off and went straight into it. I didn't mean to.
Speaker 2:You blew my shit you blew my all shit what that's spitting your asshole I'll tell that story later too, back spitting my ass there it is. Jump back and spit in my ass alright, ready, ready.
Speaker 1:Hey, blake, we've been recording for 12 minutes and 5 seconds. We're gonna actually start the podcast at 12 minutes and 20 seconds, which is in 10 seconds. Okay, just a little footnote for him 12 minutes and 20 seconds, five seconds, you ready.
Speaker 2:Ready.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, Episode four Drunk in Darkness. I'm Mitch and I'm Amanda. We are your dynamic duo. Can we be the dynamic duo?
Speaker 2:I mean, we can try to be a dynamic duo.
Speaker 1:We can be a duo. We are a dynamic duo. Are we a dynamic?
Speaker 2:I'm dynamic, are you Really?
Speaker 1:Batman and Robin were dynamic.
Speaker 2:I'm dynamic.
Speaker 1:How many times have you been out here fighting crime, stopping the Joker?
Speaker 2:Dynamic doesn't mean you fight crime.
Speaker 1:That's what they did. So how do you dignify or justify what the dynamic in?
Speaker 2:Because I am dynamite, I am dynamic, that's different I am.
Speaker 1:We can be the dynamite. You remember dynamite. Remember that guy, dynamite, remember him, we're probably more like dynamite.
Speaker 2:We're like dynamite. Remember him. They're probably more like dynamite, we're like dynamite.
Speaker 1:We're definitely.
Speaker 2:We are.
Speaker 1:We're fire and gasoline.
Speaker 2:With a little bit of uh accelerant.
Speaker 1:Is that what you're about to say?
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 1:She's trying to think of a clever way to describe us without offending us, and she's the one saying it, so I don't know I don't think it's gonna offend us, but we're like gunpowder and lead like gunpowder with fire and gasoline mix, because it might just go boom wow, that got intense, I mean you did get intense. You remember. That show, though, was like we're dying on might. I don't think so. Somebody does, I don't think so. That's an old, like 70s TV show. His name was JJ, something.
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's like that saying you were telling me about that, I didn't know, I had to look up.
Speaker 1:Which one?
Speaker 2:I don't know you know the one that you said about jimmy walker remember jimmy walker nope he used to be like that's dynamite. You can say it is over and over again.
Speaker 1:I don't remember it was good times. You remember good times. Maybe was it jimmy walker. It might not even be jimmy walker. Look, I got so racist just now when I looked that up. You know what I looked up? Jj black actor is that racist? That's not racist right I don't know, that's weird why is it weird, like if I'm just saying if someone would look up the fat white guy that did the drunken darkness podcast, they would put the fat white guy I guess, you know who'd pop up me go there like swimwear in there like swim, all right.
Speaker 1:So you guys are confused. Last night we did this podcast. I'm just going to say if I was going to partake in anything last night, if it's a big, if I would have had about 200 milligrams of edibles per se if I was going to Not that I did, but if I was going to I would have ate 200 milligrams of edibles per se. If I was going to not that I did, but if, if I was going to, I would have ate 200 milligrams of edibles, yeah, I would have also anything else. What I've done, what? What else would I have done? I didn't drink large beer.
Speaker 1:Oh, I did have like a 30, probably 60 ounce, I don't know. It's big. I had, yeah. So we went out to eat at a Mexican restaurant and we know they like their beer. I got a large draft on accident and drank about three quarters of it. It was big, it was a big beer. I probably had 30 to 40 ounces of beer. Would have Sorry, would have.
Speaker 2:You did have that.
Speaker 1:I did have that Would have had if I would have been on right terms, probably 200 milligrams of edibles. Maybe I would have ventured into some edible mushrooms that I found that were weirdly okay, and maybe I would have seen lizards on the ceiling I don't know. These are all what ifs Don't be judging me, things that could have happened. So what could have happened last night was I could have ingested all of those things, tried to do this podcast and fell asleep multiple times on Amanda.
Speaker 1:And you know, To the point she was kicking and pushing the table towards me to wake me up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I would like flip things.
Speaker 1:Evidently I was just over here, like I would have been over here, like Luke.
Speaker 2:I was I am sleeping. I will give you. You didn't snore, but there was some heavy breathing.
Speaker 1:Heavy breathing. Well, that's what. That's what Darth Vader did. He didn't snore, he was awake. He was like I, am your podcast partner.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So let's get all the stuff out from last night, Right? First of all, I want to tell you about this saying my grandpa said this all the time when he was excited. I'm excited because tonight we're doing the podcast and if my grandpa was alive he would be like boys jump back and spit in my ass. What does that mean? It means Okay, Let me, just let me. Let me lay it out for you.
Speaker 2:Give me an example of what's happening when your grandmother says this so I show up with a new car.
Speaker 1:Okay, we win the lottery.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it's a good saying.
Speaker 1:Milk was two for five. Yes, it was a good saying, it was an exciting milk. Two for five is pretty good man.
Speaker 2:You look at me. Funny milk two for five is good.
Speaker 1:I'm not looking at you for the milk, two for five, I'm looking at you, because that's a weird thing for milk, for two for five for anything. What if gas was 199 right now and I went outside was like boys, gas is 199, speedway, jump back, spit my ass why is that a good thing?
Speaker 1:what? It's? Just a shocking thing, it's. It's, you're shocked, you're surprised. Wow, gas 199. Jump back, spit in my ass. My phone bill is 75 this month. Jump back and spit in my ass. Nope, all right. So when we're done with this podcast, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2:Don't ask me to wow.
Speaker 1:That was my first thing. Second, number two. Since number one didn't work, we'll call my father.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:All I want you to say is what was Ovi's best expression, and he's going to tell you.
Speaker 2:Okay so my grandfather.
Speaker 1:My grandfather was a moonshine gambling, I mean, that's it. He worked on a construction site as a welder's helper, but basically he just worked to bootleg Moonshine. Oh okay, he got run off a cliff once for three days by the state cops and they came and told our whole family he died. Oh, wow this son of a bitch comes rolling up the road with a backpack full of Moonshine, like four days later with a full, fucking three days growth, he lived I mean, obviously he didn't.
Speaker 1:He didn't drive it off cliff, gotcha. Uh, he liked to gamble. Yeah, these backwood poker games around here like we're eastern kentucky, so anybody listen, not eastern kentucky backwood poker games are a thing like like a for real, like, oh yeah, like I've seen, a man get shot when I was about seven, ten years old.
Speaker 1:That's my first person I ever seen die like I seen get shot right in front of me. He lied about having some money, went to his car to leave and didn't have the money he had promised to have. So he got met by the car and he got. He stepped out of the car to explain his side of the situation, which was really just look, I don't have the money, the other guy wasn't having. The other guy shot him like twice in the chest. I seen that like seven, eight years old that was.
Speaker 1:That was wild that my grandpa did not say get back and spit in my ass. When that happened he said all right, folks, let's go back in the house there there's oatmeal pies for everybody. Oatmeal pies all around Ladies, the gentleman who had the card game. His wife always cooked for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember you telling me she always let you have like.
Speaker 1:She did. She loved me because I gave them an albino. This is such a wild story. I had an albino frog and I gave them this albino frog and they put it in the middle of their poker room in this little tank. So if you don't know what an albino frog is, it's an albino frog, it's just pure.
Speaker 2:That is an awesome description. Thank you for clarifying.
Speaker 1:But it's not a. It is a strictly amphibious frog. It only stays in the water. So they had this nice, like, like blowed out fish tank with all these lights and had this really pretty white frog. It would just swim back and forth and I gave it to him because I couldn't keep it anymore. Yeah, so this gentleman loved me. Well, his wife loved me because he loved me, because I was the only child at this poker game, because you shouldn't have 10 years at poker games, probably no, I'll let you boy dad hashtag grow up fast.
Speaker 1:We grow up faster in here, it's fine uh, I did not grow up fast, so I got bologna sandwiches and oatmeal pies and I got to see a man once killed. Uh, that wasn't the highlight of the day highlight of the poker trips it was not, and I don't know if my mom, if she was alive at this point, knew that that ever happened, man I hid that from her pretty well.
Speaker 1:I wish she wouldn't let me go back if I told her I mean, now I'm 40 years old, it wouldn't matter. But I never told her. To start with, you take it to the grave he took it to the grave just like when the sheriff's like you see what happened? I was like, I was just inside making a bologna sandwich. I don't know. That's what I said. It's alright, people see shit, you do shit. And see shit. No, you never did. You've probably seen some stuff you shouldn't have seen.
Speaker 2:I saw some gang fights.
Speaker 1:See how's that different? This isn't a gang fight, it's just a redneck version.
Speaker 2:No cops ever questioned me Did anybody get shot? No, these were real fights too gang fights.
Speaker 1:Just a redneck version.
Speaker 2:No cops ever questioned me didn't they get shot?
Speaker 1:no, okay, well, that's why it was real fights like these were real fights too.
Speaker 2:This was put your teeth on the curb. No, I'm just kidding. It wasn't that bad. Whoa, it wasn't that bad anyway.
Speaker 1:So last night we talked about my grandpa's saying of jump back, spit in my ass.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I said my grandpa had sayings like wit and bat in your eyes like a frog in a hill storm. Bat in your eyes like a frog in a hill storm bat in your eyes like a frog in a storm.
Speaker 1:I would have loved that to been that. So my, my grandpa's was just a little more extreme. So let me tell you like my mom showed up with the new buick regal once not new to, not new new, but new to her and my grandpa met us at the front door and said lisa, what do you got there? She said well, I got, I got a new Buick Regal. He said well, jump back spitting my ass. How'd you get that? He was excited for it.
Speaker 1:Now, granted, I never seen not one nary person jump back or spit in his ass.
Speaker 2:Well, thank goodness, but that was the saying.
Speaker 1:I never seen this happen in real life, but I got to say you'd be pretty surprised if somebody did that right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you got to think the surprise aspect is off the charts. Right, yeah, I mean like if you were going to show up somewhere and somebody just done that to you all of a sudden your fucking surprise factor's on like 10.
Speaker 2:Just so you know I mean it's your grandfather's saying, like it's nowhere else, it's not in, it's not in the urban dictionary.
Speaker 1:This is an ova saying what'd you call him just now?
Speaker 2:ova ovi, yeah, it's with an e.
Speaker 1:You gotta bring that down is it actually with any? No, you just say it's with an a, but it's pronounced ovi, like his name was gosh damn yogi. His name was ovi bear, but everybody called him yogi. Well, yeah, you can still go today and go someplace and ask if they know yogi bear, and they're gonna know him well, yeah, he took my picnic basket yesterday he took your picnic basket and your moonshine and smoked all your weed and your grandpa and I would have gotten my grandpa was a hustler.
Speaker 1:I used to show up on the porch and I remember asking my grandma why is papa on the porch all red-faced? And that's because he was outside burning down like. He used to have a dresser that didn't have anything but pot in it, but he had a fake dresser. He had a dresser with clothes and a dresser with pot. Well, he always got mad at me when I found a dresser with pot. I didn't know any different. It was a damn dresser. Don't get me to the pot dresser. I had a draw to the pot dresser. He never smoked pot with me. He passed before I could.
Speaker 2:So your would have either loved me for my ability to drink moonshine or told you to get away from me because I was gonna drink all them profits.
Speaker 1:My grandfather just want to take some pictures. Little domer on tv, my grandfather would have liked you. Uh, he was a marlboro non-filter nascar watching cornbread eating, weed smoking some bitch. Every night he had cornbread milk like it was cereal I never knew what that was until him, did he do cornbread and buttermilk?
Speaker 1:he did. He made cornbread buttermilk. He didn't eat cornbread and buttermilk. He ate cornbread and milk, I'm pretty sure. But now I'd have to go back. You're talking. I'm 40 years fucking old, I don't remember, okay. Uh, he was an earnhardt fan. He loved nascar. Everybody loved him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a good guy yeah, I always hear great things uh, you know there was, you know he was a good guy. Good guy, yes, but yes, but what I took from him was the same jump back and spit my ass. But you've never heard me say that to recently, recently. I don't say that I don't break that out a lot. I don't break that out in certain company.
Speaker 2:You ever heard me get after you for batting your eyes like a frog in a hailstorm?
Speaker 1:Thank God, my family would be super upset if you brought that to church. Did that little girl just tell him to quit batting his eyes like a frog in a hailstorm? Well, b that little girl just tell him to quit batting his eyes like a frog in a hell storm.
Speaker 2:Well b next time.
Speaker 1:And here I stood up jump back, spit my ass yep, they'd have sent me straight out them doors. Yeah, when I found out jesus come back in three days and I stood up and said that it would have been over, yeah, yeah, he moved that rock on his own in three days. Well, boys jumped back spit in my ass. They would have sent me straight out.
Speaker 2:They would have taken you straight to that baptismal and just.
Speaker 1:Baptismal. Is that the pronunciation, the baptismal?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That even sounds wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they would have dunked you right in and got them demons straight out.
Speaker 1:Hey, we even got to do a podcast. You just called something the baptismal. Like I'm looking at you right now like we're not married, but is that a real pronunciation? I need you to tell me. I think so. Yes, baptismal. What does that mean? Is that the big water park? Is that the water? Baptizing tub that's the pool that's not a pool.
Speaker 2:It's a pool.
Speaker 1:They are all these churches putting these little baptismal pools after 1995. Everybody gets a pool. It's a pool. It is not a pool. All these churches put in these little baptismal pools after 1995. Everybody gets baptized. It's not a pool. Take me down to the creek like a real man and baptize me in the water. You can't put a recirculating pool in your church and call it a baptismal.
Speaker 2:Baptismal.
Speaker 1:It is a real word.
Speaker 2:Relating to the Christian rite of baptism.
Speaker 1:Well, I know they started putting them in all these churches.
Speaker 2:Yes, there are.
Speaker 1:Hey, speaking of churches, I got to shout out. You see, my boy, jelly Roll, won three CMT awards.
Speaker 2:I was happy about that. How do you know about that? I'm super happy about it. What?
Speaker 1:are you getting me to look, for I don't know, I'm just saying it was cool.
Speaker 2:Cool.
Speaker 1:Because I think maybe he's me reincarnated. Is that the?
Speaker 2:word. Is he older than you, right?
Speaker 1:I don't know, man Maybe you're his baby. You're his long-lost child. I think you say stuff like that, not realizing how old we are. You often tell me you're like I think I'm Lindsay Lohan's baby. You forget we're like eight years older than she is. That's not. You stop living at 26 years old. You're like I ain't having her birthday. You forget we keep aging.
Speaker 2:I know how old we are.
Speaker 1:Do you? Yes, I don't.
Speaker 2:Well, that's fine, I know how old I am.
Speaker 1:Well, I do too, because you're a year older than I am.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not you are nine months older than me.
Speaker 1:Nine months is more than a few. That's almost a year.
Speaker 2:I mean basically in.
Speaker 1:Jump back, spit in my ass. You're nine months older than me.
Speaker 2:Basically in adult years, of adult versus female versus adult.
Speaker 1:I thought you were going to say adult versus fetus and I pictured this like celebrity death match and me versus fetus and I thought I can win that fight Lost.
Speaker 2:Just so you know, adult female versus adult male. I'm probably like 50 years older than you. So just because less ladies mature a lot faster than you, boys mature, do you also age in dog years?
Speaker 1:evidently, if you're 50 years older than me I mean in maturity level. Yeah, you think you're 50 years mature, maturemer. I'm a maturemer, maturemer, maturemer. Hey, here we go, tonight's episode.
Speaker 2:It is Feb, it is not Feb. But you know what we should play? Instead of talking about nonsense, maybe play a little.
Speaker 1:April 5th, april 5th, it is April 5th. It is ketchup on what?
Speaker 2:what's been going on the last couple weeks, because it's been a little bit.
Speaker 1:Well, you've been sick of shit for three weeks so I have told people online I have. You have seen me post online non-stop because that's really all we can do, because you have not only had what I think was covid, pretty sure you might have actually had the flu. Yeah, you've been sick of shit. You've been coughing, you've been've been sneezing, you've been congested.
Speaker 2:You've been hurting.
Speaker 1:You've been aching. I honestly thought you were going to die at one point.
Speaker 2:Well, that's extreme.
Speaker 1:You laid in bed for like four days and felt like shit. What am I supposed to think? You feel like up to running like a marathon.
Speaker 2:I was training, training hard.
Speaker 1:Training hard for the sleep olympics, like I'm telling you guys. She has snotted and sneezed and coughed and can just been congested and had belly problems and has just felt like complete excuse my french, because now it matters complete asshole yeah for probably three, now going on three weeks if not almost rough, like I think I'm just starting to smell again.
Speaker 1:Maybe she says that, and there's a bottle of fucking brahma fed here, which is this fucking badass cough syrup, because she couldn't stop coughing prior to us recording. So you're not much better. You just have got to live with it now I mean, I'm not as she says I'm not. I'm not sleeping with a roll of toilet paper anymore you just had some stuff in your nostril hole like two days ago that was two days ago that's the look I get.
Speaker 1:Now I look over at her and she's got a piece of toilet paper stuffed up like the right side of her nose when she's like, hey, you want to make out later, nope he's like yes, I do that's true story, if I get what?
Speaker 1:you got going on snot or be snot, let's make out, uh, but really that's the catch-up. Uh, she's been sick as hell, so we've. You know I we talked when we started this back up what, I guess a month or two ago, that consistency was our huge thing about being out every Wednesday, new episodes every Wednesday, recording every Friday. But I'm going to be honest with you when your wife is sick as hell, it's really the last thing you think about. We want to get her feeling better first.
Speaker 2:It just wasn't going to happen, unless you guys wanted to listen to me sniff.
Speaker 1:And I don't see anybody beating down our doors wanting us to podcast. So when you guys start beating down the doors, I'll start beating down yours.
Speaker 2:That was weird.
Speaker 1:Is that dirty?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think you successfully made it dirty.
Speaker 1:I think beating down your walls, that's what little John says, right.
Speaker 2:I don't know. You're asking the wrong person. To the window, to the wall, to the sweat drop no. That drips down your.
Speaker 1:Bones.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know Anyway, but yeah, if you guys had, like demanded a new episode, I'm sure you'd have got up and done it Right, but like we don't feel like you guys are demanding anything and we'd rather put out a good episode or at least a funny episode than to get you up and make, coming here and set for two fucking hours to talk about nonsense, because we've successfully talked for 33 minutes about complete nonsense you know what?
Speaker 2:why don't we talk about real things, real thing, real nonsense.
Speaker 1:We were updating them on the happenings, man. Uh. So the happens. Two weeks I went back to the er you oh working at the er. Yeah, I went back to the or working uh successfully for about a day. Uh, 12 hours on the mitch foot really fucked me up yes, uh, he does have a mitch foot update though I got some fish scale put in my mitch foot so he's got a fish foot fish foot.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna turn into kevin costner from water world and I'm gonna have gills and I'm gonna swim across the fucking atlantic man, I like me some kevin costner, I'm gonna find amir airheart who amelia airheart there you go what I said the first time.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what to be. Make me some Kevin Costner.
Speaker 2:I'm going to find Amelia Earhart. Who, amelia Earhart? There you go. What did I say the first time?
Speaker 1:I don't even know. Well, to be quite open, I had at dinner tonight. I had two shots of tequila.
Speaker 2:You did Three margaritas.
Speaker 1:Three margaritas.
Speaker 2:Of course A.
Speaker 1:Coors Light and I'm currently drinking some vodka that starts with an S and ends with an off.
Speaker 2:The S.
Speaker 1:I feel like we should probably not say names, just in case you know. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm drinking some off vodka. Yeah, so I went back to the ER. We are both working from home full time a week Full time a week. We are both working from home five time a week Full time a week. We're both working from home five days a week, full time. I am trying to attempt to go back to the ER full time. Amanda is trying to get over whatever crud she has.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and taking daily naps. It's nice, not really every day, but almost every day. I miss them.
Speaker 1:She's taking care of the house and the animals and the dogs. I didn't realize how much of a chore that shit was. We came home tonight and the dogs had gotten to both trash Not just the trash bag we had sitting out, but the trash can. So I realize, when I give her a hard time about napping, that when I go to work in the evenings to the ER, somebody's got to watch these fucking dogs and cats. Man, jesus christ, they're a headache it is a zoo we have one that's an asshole.
Speaker 1:We have a cat named batty b-a-t-t-y. Batty bats. About this time, about nine o'clock every evening, he switches gears and turns into fucking. He'll run through the house full speed, jump on the back of the recliner, on the back of the door, swing off the door, jump on the bed, jump on the curtains and climb upside down. I know that sounds dumb. You think I'm making that up?
Speaker 2:no, I am not.
Speaker 1:He does that you'll wake up at three in the morning.
Speaker 2:There's a cat upside down on your curtains climbing to the top like he's in fucking gymnast class yeah, and if he's having a calm night, he's sitting on top of the jewelry stand, glaring at us while we're sleeping.
Speaker 1:Or Amanda found him with a pocket knife in his hand, wasn't that?
Speaker 2:We can post pictures of that. But you know what, at six o'clock in the morning, he's all about the love.
Speaker 1:Because he's been up all night by himself and fucking hell has finally started to fucking sweat out of him. Tonight's episode. Let's get into it.
Speaker 2:That was a great transition.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:So now tonight.
Speaker 1:We got a crazy cat and tonight we're doing an episode on. So we had said when the first person joined our Patreon. So for all two people on our Patreon, all two of you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Shout out hey, that's no small feat. I feel like patreon patreon.
Speaker 1:So for all two people on our patreon, all two of you, thank you. Shout out, shout out. Hey, that's no, that's no small feat. I feel like right. We have two people in this world who are paying their money to hear us fucking ramble on and we appreciate it. We do, because I can go out here and pull a handful of people out the street. They don't have two people that would will to pay anything they want, that's right I can tell you 55 people right now.
Speaker 1:I don't want to pay two dollars to hear what they got to say yeah. So to the two people on our patreon and the two people gonna join this week yeah, see that, see that yeah that's, uh, what you call that high hopes, motivation. We call, I don't know, aspirations. Maybe sure are you just looking at me. Anyway, to the two poopers that has joined our Patreon and two people are going to join this week, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1:Manifest that. But we did say on our first podcast or second podcast of the season I wish I'd see a man dancing right now that the first people to join the Patreon got to choose the next topic. And they did and they did and they chose the Mighty, mighty Mushroom Mines of. Lawton Kentucky.
Speaker 2:The Mighty, mighty Mushroom Mines, the Mighty Mighty.
Speaker 1:Mushroom Mines, which is also considered to be in Olive Hill, kentucky. Soldier, kentucky Lawton, what's Upper Tigert? I don't think it would be considered Upper Tigert Maybe not Upper Tigert, but you'll hear the Mushroom Mines Hill, the mushroom mines of Soldier, the mushroom mines of Lawton.
Speaker 2:Does Enterprise fall in that area?
Speaker 1:Enterprise. Maybe Just look up the fucking mushroom mines and you'll find them. I mean, I don't know where the fuck they're at. They're at the Rayburn store, which is technically.
Speaker 2:Lawton.
Speaker 1:Lawton. But Lawton doesn't have a post office anymore, it doesn't have a store, and for all these little youtubers that are like, oh, we're in this, what they call it like abandoned town, bitch, that was never a fucking town it was never a fucking town. So take your youtube ass on up out of here. It was never a town.
Speaker 1:It had a store it had three buildings right and half of them, bitches, were just antique shops. So you rolling up in here on your youtube channel saying, well, I'm in this abandoned town could you count some dilapidated buildings? I can turn my ass around four times to find dilapidated buildings anywhere. I am in carter county kentucky so anyway, for real you are in olive hill, kentucky.
Speaker 1:You are also in carter, county kentucky. The town is like 10 minutes back east or 15 minutes west. There is no town where you're at. There are some buildings that were there at one point, but anyway, you showed up to the mushroom mines. Now let me tell you what I know. Tell me what you know about the mushroom mines because I know a little bit more than more usual Tell me. Because this is my hometown.
Speaker 2:That's talent.
Speaker 1:Mushroom mines started as a limestone mine for many, many, many, many years Was a limestone mine for many years, even to recent Like when I say recent, I mean the last, what 30 years?
Speaker 2:Probably longer than that Maybe 40. More than that. Well, listen you're now forgetting how old we are all right, maybe no.
Speaker 1:Now we were alive and that was still limestone mine.
Speaker 1:Nope, no way, no, you sure yep all right, then limestone mine must have ended before we were born and just was an empty mine shaft, whatever. Uh, in the what? 2010s it was sold. Or 2000s it was sold. 2010s probably sold to a data company for the government, supposedly. So they brought a bunch of hope to the area. They were going to put all these jobs in. They were going to do this, this complex data facility. That shit, never. That guy was a fraud from LA who had done all kinds of dirty shit already, who had already dealt with, like all kinds of cases of fucking fraudulent activity and being a fucking dickhead and all this. I don't know if being a dickhead is a crime punished by courts, but evidently he was. So they got the town's hopes up that this was going to happen. It was called Stone Mountain. Right, we're going to take all for.
Speaker 2:Stone Mountain. That's what they.
Speaker 1:Yep Stone Mountain and eventually he got to be seen for the fraud he was. So they said, well, fuck that, You're not in this anymore.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And now it's back to a empty mine shaft. I know high school students, college students, adults, adults like go back and visit these mines. These mines are the haven for squatters, for what we call in the eastern kentucky devil worshipers. Uh, there's probably some like small, like just people who go up and hang out and cook out and drink beer and like hide out and do their thing, but basically it is hundreds of miles of mine shaft that just basically go nowhere anymore. That used to at one point be one of the biggest lime-producing mines in the area.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, yes, and now is not shit, now it's just a, but they hold all kinds of tourist attraction right, basically a tourist attraction, because we were up there twice and seen cars from new york and virginia and here in the states in the states.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, you know you get normal people in the state.
Speaker 1:But basically you get uh people wanting to come up and go through them all the time because they hold such a I don't know what you call it uh like a value of being haunted or scary or nostalgia or just fucking overall creepy. And they are creepy, I don't give. I've been up there 30 times. What are you looking at me for just listening, looking at me funny. I've been up for 30 times all my life and each time, like the farther you go back, they do give off a creepy vibe because you'll talk about this you'll talk about this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't know what's next because there's a ton of little rooms. So what happens if you screw up on a room and you're just strolling through with you, with your family? We were yep and you walked into like nine squatters who just didn't want to be fucking bothered. It's not the fact that they're scary and ghost-like, but now you've got a fight on your hands with a bunch of fucking asshole ass squatters who want to eat their spam and drink their fucking shit-ass beer in private. You're not wrong, but there still is some scare factor to it because, as you let me know I didn't know this there were actually some bodies that were maybe not buried, but like just hidden up there. Real well, and that's a recent like when I say recent, within the last what?
Speaker 1:20, 30 years 20 yeah, like I know, that's not recent to a lot of kids but almost 20 years but as an adult motherfucker, 20 years flies, so when? You say 20 years, like it's 2003. We were graduating high school, we were turned adults and somebody was hiding bodies in the mushroom mines.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, that shit A couple years later.
Speaker 1:Right, that shit to me is creepy because when I was up there as a preteen, as a teen, it was just like a creepy place to go. I mean, I'm not going to lie, you basically parked those rocks that we walked over, weren't there?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So what we did was we pulled up front, yeah, and we took a girl inside and whenever who was still in a car would shut the lights off, whether girl would panic and be like, oh, save me. And everyone was inside with her. You saved her not really saved her, but she knew the gimmick like she knew, knew you were trying to be macho man.
Speaker 2:That's dumb.
Speaker 1:It wasn't because I was outside before she was.
Speaker 2:I didn't like it. I didn't like it. It was creepy. You're ridiculous, just like Clack Mountain.
Speaker 1:You ever been to Clack Mountain in Moorhead?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There used to be a house there that some guy supposedly tortured people at. And the gimmick, there was the same deal. You took a girl, you shut the lights off. I was like, ah nope, not me, man, I was outside before. She was Fuck that. And then I was there when somebody burnt that house down. Yeah, that was a big thing. That house is gone now.
Speaker 2:Well, sounds like it needs to be gone. Sorry, friends, that's my medicine alarm.
Speaker 1:You're old, you have medicine alarms.
Speaker 2:Take your medicine when you have to take all the medicines all day long.
Speaker 1:You fill me in. So let's, let's fill, yeah because what I know of is is just that is that it was a mushroom, it was a literal limestone, mine. Oh, I left that part out you did leave that part out which blows my mind.
Speaker 1:So they just you like I don't know how that works. Like which blows my mind. So they just you like I don't know how that works, like I can pretend to know a lot of things. I don't even know what fucking limestone is, to be honest with you, but they made, they fucking harvested or did whatever the limestone there. I know that. Then they they grew mushrooms in there, but and I'm assuming, because it was dark and damp but for what purpose? Because I don't like to sell like. Are we talking illegal?
Speaker 2:much like no like I like mushrooms no, you're talking like the mushrooms you buy in the store that you put in your salad so you're telling me that, like fucking, the jolly green giant came to fucking I mean not probably not that brand, but yeah but that's, that's the kind of mushroom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, really I didn't. I wouldn't have thought they would just grow mushrooms all willy-nilly like that in some rural mine. I thought they would have it more regulated.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm sure they probably do now.
Speaker 1:You got a bunch of rednecks up here in Soju no, they're good man and you got four guys like me tripping balls after you had a Caesar salad. They and balls until you had a Caesar salad.
Speaker 2:They were like tell me where to sign. How do you get these mushrooms? These are my favorite mushrooms.
Speaker 1:These are the best mushrooms ever. Man, you see a? Lizard across that ceiling, jump back, spit my ass.
Speaker 2:Oh Lord, but wow, my very Pentecostal grandmother, great-grandmother, worked in the mushroom mine, so I'm going to say they were legal mushrooms.
Speaker 1:Well, do whatever you want to say.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:Don't forget my uncle's Pentecostal he's wild.
Speaker 2:Not like that.
Speaker 1:You don't know, I've watched him backflip up and down the miles before. I'm so sorry, friend, something's got to make him backflip like that.
Speaker 2:That's the Lord.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1:Whatever you want to say, I think it was the mushrooms. You think it was the Lord. This wasn't one.
Speaker 2:It's the Lord. Okay, it was the Lord's mushrooms, the.
Speaker 1:Lord's mushrooms. Yes, that's a great answer.
Speaker 2:So why don't I tell you a little bit? You are correct. The mushroom mine started out as the Lawton Limestone Company mine. That was like 1917. Started out as the Lawton Limestone Company mine. That was like 1917.
Speaker 1:And we're talking over 100 years ago now, way before we graduated.
Speaker 2:Way before we graduated, way before we were alive, because we're old, but we're not that old. So it was eventually changed. I don't know if it was that it sold or changed hands, but the name changed.
Speaker 1:And became the Tigert See there that upper tigertness coming out the tigert limestone company yeah and, um, it was owned locally by someone from walton.
Speaker 2:So, um, basically they did exactly what you would think they sorry, they mined lime. We're talking about limestone, the lime that you use on crops. We're talking about limestone that was made into bricks. We're talking, I mean, I guess there were all sorts of use for it. And you say you don't know what limestone is when we're driving down the interstate and you see all those rock walls. That's limestone. Obviously, the mines are made of limestone. It is that like layered brownish rock that has just been smashed, smashed, smashed over the years. Sand, all the like, things that like compact and can create that rock. Limestone's huge around here. Um, limestone used to be a huge problem for our cell phones. That's why service around here is harder than other areas, because it is a barrier. Yes, it's kind of like the dollar general. You go in and there ain't nothing that's going to give you phone service shit.
Speaker 1:I, like you, can compared limestone to the Dollar General.
Speaker 2:I know Both indestructible Shit. The blonde dollar and limestone man that's forever. Diamonds shouldn't be a girl's best friend, it's limestone and the DG friends.
Speaker 1:I'm just Maybe Just nonsense. I like the dollar store a lot.
Speaker 2:I I mean, there's one on every corner, you better well, you know yeah, no, it's a, it's a thing, but anyways.
Speaker 2:so the limestone tunnel was exactly what what you've said. There are hundreds, or well over a hundred acres worth of mine here, that we're talking about caves, 2.6 million feet worth of tunnels, so that's a lot of tunnels and I'm I think that's that surely got to be like square footage, I don't know. Um, so, and not only are there all the tunnels, there's an underground lake. Some people call the pond, some people call the, but when you get deep down in there, there is actually a body of water. We'll talk about the lake a little bit. It seems to kind of pop into all of the stories that seem to come across. There are lots of stories about what people here claim to see down by the water, about what people here claim to see down by the water.
Speaker 2:In the 1960s the mine had closed from its limestone business. After you know, we got to the point that we can produce everything you know, with whatever materials we can, you know, kind of GMO, all of our things. You know, like I'm talking like a faux brick, whatever we can create those materials now to create those bricks, so we don't necessarily have to mine them anymore. So that shut the limestone company down. It was then changed hands, became a mushroom mine in the 60s. You're right, mushrooms, because the conditions were really good it was dark, it was damp, it was cool. Apparently, those are all prime conditions for your mushrooms. I've gotten some varying time frames late 70s, early 80s. The mine shut down. So before we were born there were some bodies found in 2000.
Speaker 2:I've seen a couple different reports here too. I've seen 2006. I've seen 2004. And I remember when it happened, but I don't remember. You know the exact dates. I think 2004 is right. We graduated 02. So that's telling our age, if anyone wants to do that math there. But in 2004, the bodies of a husband and wife were found deep in the mines. Like you said, they weren't buried, but they were. They weren't buried in the ground, but they were buried underneath a bunch of pallets. The husband and wife's son and his girlfriend were charged with this murder. They were from a neighboring town, about 40-ish minutes away, probably from the mines themselves Some sort of dispute. This boy and his girlfriend apparently murdered the parents and then drug them way deep back into the mines and buried them. I don't think they were found because anybody stumbled upon them. I think they were found because the cops quickly targeted and saw that something was weird with the son and I think he told them. So I don't think it was like some random hikers were strolling through the mines and come across them.
Speaker 1:Look a body.
Speaker 2:Right, that's awful red underneath that pallet. Let's dig through them. There's a body right. Oh, that's a awful red underneath that palette, let's dig through them.
Speaker 2:There's a body under here yeah, I know, um, and I mean, anybody can look that up. It's, you know, common, common knowledge, especially around here, but also just, it's public knowledge. Um, we'll leave names out because we don't. You know, we want to be respectful but there's all sorts of information out there on that. But we know that when this was requested, it was because everybody wants to hear about the creepy stuff. You know, we all can look up the history and be like, oh, I see this or I see that, but you guys want to hear spooky things, the scary things, the stories of voices heard, or, you know, phantom lights, and those are the things that people say and I even kept hearing. You know, oh, there's this devil's rock that you know is in the minds and no matter what way we went or what tunnel we went down, we always ended up at this same place. So that's, that's the kind of stuff we're here for. I mean, that's the kind of stuff I'm here for nothing about a devil's rock.
Speaker 2:When you took me, well, I mean, I sorry I didn't know.
Speaker 1:There was a rock I was coming in contact with. I peed on a rock a couple times. It was the same rock, it seemed, but I just assumed it was just a rock. A rock is a rock.
Speaker 2:I mean, this is a little more, I think. Okay, when I kept looking up, I did get a lot of the same stuff. We see cults there. We, you know, people deal drugs there. People camp there. There's homeless people there. There's gypsies there.
Speaker 1:All I kept seeing was like Janet was here.
Speaker 2:I mean, Janet was there.
Speaker 1:Sally sucks dick, glory hole. That's all I seen.
Speaker 2:We did see the glory hole.
Speaker 1:Several of them. So I'm real hard to be convinced there's anything there, because all I seen was these damned old signs and spray painted shit. Ass graffiti that was like lori loves brett 1999. I mean yeah, they're sabrina's got a wet puss. That's all the shit we kept seeing. Like it's just dumb shit. Like who writes this shit on walls? Like you, me, because I'm bringing, I'm trying to bring the knowledge. If you go to the mushroom mines, that's what you're gonna see you're gonna get a lot of weird sexual knowledge you're gonna get the fucking claud.
Speaker 1:Claudetta Got a big butt and her sister Gloria got a wet pud. Jump back, spit in my ass.
Speaker 2:That's what you would spray on the walls. That's what I'd put.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go put a maroon spray paint and jump back, spit in my ass on the walls.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was an awkward time here and there we went and we didn't go as far back as we had really intended because we realized really fast that our flashlights were not the appropriate flashlights. Um, my headlamp kept turning off and we had one good. No, we didn't even take the good flashlight.
Speaker 1:god damn, you want to make sure you know what kind of fucking hood Sally's bringing to the party the thing is is it's dark?
Speaker 2:So, I mean our flashlights gave us about six feet in front of us.
Speaker 1:That's true.
Speaker 2:You know, and it would have been nice to have maybe some more light than that but we took our 12-year-old and he was introduced to what glory hole meant as we were walking through and he was like what's glory hole mean? Just tell me, just tell me.
Speaker 1:And just so you know, I didn't tell him shit.
Speaker 2:I didn't tell him anything either. I was like I don't think so.
Speaker 1:So you know again limestone, but the internet is free.
Speaker 2:Right, limestone, there's no service back in there. I guess, I don't, guess, I don't know, I didn't really look, but the first thing he done when he got to the car was Google the glory hole. So so, thank you, mushroom Minds and Lawton and Google. So anyway, as I kept looking and looking and looking things up, I came up with one story that I have saved here that I thought was a pretty decent story and it's kind of long. So are you okay if I just read this story to you? Are you going to fall asleep on me, is this?
Speaker 1:your bedtime story.
Speaker 2:Well, I might have read this story last night and you found it.
Speaker 1:Thank you for adding that in All right.
Speaker 2:So this story came off of I want to say a blog spot post, or maybe it was Reddit or something when I was looking things up, Since I camped there for three days in 03 with my now husband and two of our friends. There's a pond, not sure how deep it is, but we threw a rock in and it don't sound shallow. Our first night we camped back by the pond, we had a bonfire lit and was sleeping out in the open with sleeping bags. The two guys made us two girls sleep in the middle of the two of them, so the guys on the edges, girls in the center, so they're nice and safe. Right After the guys started to doze off and the fire started to die down, my friend and I heard rocks being thrown behind us coming from one of the many dark passages. Not too long after that, we heard directly behind my friend's boyfriend and he was laying facing towards us, snoring away. What we heard was a loud cackle. We were afraid to completely look in his direction. All we know is it woke him up. We all dipped and they told us, ladies to sleep in the car with the doors locked, shaking my head.
Speaker 2:The next day we all explored a good chunk of the mine. Some spots were well lit and others were very dark. We came to what appeared to be the center of the mine. To our horrific surprise there was an old concrete platform that had a large wooden cross that had been placed in the middle of it. The cross had been turned upside down, hooks sticking out of the top of it. There was a pentagram and other symbols graffitied all around the location of the cross.
Speaker 2:At this point we were all very uneasy but, being the thrill seekers we were back then, and also adding to the fact that we drove a good distance and spent a lot of money and supplies and such for the trip, that we decided to stay again yet another night. We moved our camping location towards the front of the mine. That way we'd have fast access to an opening should something go horribly wrong. And the guys says? The guys briefly left to get a 12 pack for the night and we planned to relax, enjoy the night ahead.
Speaker 2:Dark came and the guys were gathering up old pallets to burn and any wood they could find to last. Through the night Everything seemed more peaceful. A false sense of security fell upon us all and just as the guys were getting the fire going. Good, we had our sleeping bags out. We were all silenced by what sounded like a near vehicle in the mines approaching. We heard the vehicle driving through near passages and we saw the glow of distant lights.
Speaker 2:To our surprise, a small white Buick emerges in our camping area and stops next to us. The guys go over to scope the situation out. It was two other guys driving, one says one had his arm hanging out the window, resting his hand on the car door. They ask us the obvious were we camping there? The guys told them yes. When the guy on the passenger side commented with a slight grin we didn't think anyone came up here after what was found back by the pond.
Speaker 2:At that point we all grew very uneasy. We had just camped out there the night before. Our guys looked at each other, pretending to laugh the situation off. To lessen our immediate fear, they told the guys in the car that we were going to be crashing soon and calling it a night, and they didn't inquire anything about what had taken place by the pond. The guys in the car waved, honked and honked as their car dipped and splashed its way through the puddles and potholes and things grew eerily quiet for a few minutes. My guy's friend shook his head. Who the hell were they? He said to my guy. They both gave each other what we call the got to get out of here. Look, instructed that we all get everything quickly and get into the car and that we're leaving.
Speaker 2:We packed up the fire. We packed up, put the fire out, got in the car my husband was driving and my friend and I were in the back watching ahead of us, with the lights also gazing at the darkness behind us. As soon as we emerged through the front opening, we were greeted with a horrifying surprise. The white Buick was parked on the side of the path leading towards the entrance and about 10 to 12 people stood behind them in black cloaks and they were all facing us as we made a speedy exit, blazing past them, all facing us as we made a speedy exit, blazing past them as we sped past them. They were trying to motion us to stop, but we continued because my husband's friends was hysterically screaming go, go, go. So that really was kind of probably the best story that I found that somebody posted. It's kind of got a little bit of all the things. It sounds like they believe that they come across like a satanic ritual. That was probably going to happen. I mean it's weird. What do you think? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, you probably get that Right. I mean Right yeah, yeah, I mean you probably get that right. You know, I mean right, um seems like a lot, of a lot of work to go to, like, pull up and be like, oh hey, you're camping here and right, and then you go back to the front. You've got 15 fucking people in clothes. I don't know I mean maybe. I mean I guess, if you're gonna do some kind of satanic shit, it would be up there.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know right, and you know the cackle the night before you.
Speaker 1:You know I would have to hear it yourself. Yeah, I mean I would have to go. I don't, I mean the story sounds silly to me, but that's because I find all stories silly, until it happens to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just like the stories of Clack Mountain and just the stories of all this, Like I've never seen anybody in black clothes going anywhere and I don't that's just me.
Speaker 2:Right, I've never seen anything like that either. The altar is something that I've heard from people that I know that there is, you know, an altar up there with the pentagrams and everything. I don't know about the upside down cross, I don't remember, but I know that our oldest has been up there many times with his fraternity brothers and people he knows, partying and stuff, and he's talked about the altar. He's told me that it was there, and I have not an explanation for it being a satanical altar, but that there is an altar up there, for sure, a big stone altar, and it sounds as though it's been changed, because one of the super interesting facts that I found, or something that I thought was super cool about the mushroom mines, is that they did have a church inside them.
Speaker 2:So deep within the mines and I say deep within, I don't know what you really consider deep, but within the mines it was, of course, you know, like this place that everybody worked and there were all these you know roadways and rooms and whatnot Within you know, one of the tunnels they have what they called the great stone church. This was a large room that the mine used as a church building. The room was about 25 feet high, being very spacious um, and had seats, had a heating stove and a baptizing pool that was in it. So hey, 1917, there's a baptizing pool in there, so you had a baptismal.
Speaker 2:I mean they could hold baptismal.
Speaker 1:So they had a church inside, like the actual mines themselves, for people who had to work down in there. They could still go to church.
Speaker 2:They could. That's wild. So every Thursday morning they had church service for an hour. Everybody was paid, even if you were. If you didn't attend church and you worked, you got paid. If you attended church, you got paid. You got paid for that hour.
Speaker 2:It was considered a Methodist church, but they did let other denominations hold their services as well, because they also understood that not everybody is methodist. So so they did. You know there's an altar from the church that was there. There were seats. It was the great stone church and you know. So not only did all of these workers that worked for, for this mine company have the ability to have church there, the we're talking the 1917, so that era very union driven. So lots of, lots of union, and this mine was part of that union. Um, so other union workers, they heard about this church, this, this stone church. They came over and hang out, they would come check it out. So in itself, during this time was its own kind of little attraction, which is, I mean, you know, we talk about it, we're in eastern Kentucky, it's very Bible Belt. People are, you know, believers.
Speaker 1:Bible Belt. Be hell. You just going to go down to some mines and go to church. Though I can go to church on 17th Street, I feel like Well, there ain't no 17th Street in. It's true.
Speaker 2:I don't think there are 17 streets in town.
Speaker 1:But you still got to go down this creepy-ass limestone.
Speaker 2:But again, you're talking about people that work there.
Speaker 1:I guess.
Speaker 2:And when I say people were coming that were part of the union, they were other people that worked in mines and things.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'm just a pussy. Pussy, I don't want to be. Did you say maybe? Maybe I don't want to be there. No minds man going to church. Maybe it'd make you feel better. God didn't come to me. I feel like no. Now there's plenty of churches that aren't in minds. I can go see god. I don't gotta go down in the minds to see no one said that right but god's always with you. Maybe I don't have to go anywhere maybe right, you don't.
Speaker 2:It's right here right now. The church is the people, not the building. The church is the people, not the building.
Speaker 1:Now, that's what you say, mm-hmm, and that may be true.
Speaker 2:I don't know it is.
Speaker 1:But I've been told a lot different from a lot of different preachers. But we'll get into that sometime.
Speaker 2:The church, church I just, we just get into that way.
Speaker 1:That's some other time, but we'll just piss off all kind of people. People are the cornerstone, well, that's what they say. But people, but everybody around here wants to go to certain churches, and if you go to certain churches then you're not fucking, you're not, you're not christian, you know. If you go to this church, besides that church, then you're not good enough.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a whole other right. That's what I'm saying. That's a whole other thing. That's a whole other thing.
Speaker 1:Right, that's what I'm saying. That's a whole other thing, that's a whole other thing. That's why I drink Tversky and fucking.
Speaker 2:Ghost Energy drinks. I don't think you have Tversky, but okay.
Speaker 1:Smirnoff. I got a little Smirnoff and Ghost Energy. I brought my own church.
Speaker 2:You brought your own church up in here.
Speaker 1:I'm like Megan Morris, marin morris. There you go, yeah. And what's her other name?
Speaker 2:ballerina, I don't know little girl brought the drag queens on stage. No, what was that?
Speaker 1:say that, one more drag queens, I don't know what I said, but like it was wild, right?
Speaker 2:I don't think anyone understood what you said.
Speaker 1:I don't need to kelsey ballerina. She brought some drag queens on stage, fucked everybody's mind up it did, I didn't see it. I didn't either, but I heard people got pissed off on country radio I was not excited anyway, uh, the mushroom mines yeah what else you got, because I'm about to give my opinion so I mean I don't have a whole whole lot.
Speaker 2:I you know rumors of drug deals, prostitution, human trafficking, yeah yeah, why not?
Speaker 1:um, you take them out there and nobody's going to fucking know.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:People live up that street Now, granted some of them, some of them good folk.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Some of them a little shady.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Some of them good folk, but when you're back up in there they don't know who the fuck's in there.
Speaker 2:No, they don't, Is it?
Speaker 1:It's a prime place so here's my opinion when you talk about ghostly.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:What's the word I'm going for? What talks about ghostly? It starts with a P.
Speaker 2:Phenomenon.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's phenomenon, it's apparitions. There, you go Nope, go nope. Bullshit don't happen. I don't think anything ghostly happens up there.
Speaker 1:I think that is a product of everybody going up there trick of the mind right, it's because when I left you the other day with our 12 year old walking back, you guys would walk back a few more little holes and I'd left. I had remembered reading a thing that was like everybody hears water run when there's no place for it to run. And I heard all kinds of water running. You know why it had rained like a mother fuck man. There was plenty reason for it to fucking run. Yeah, it wasn't that I was hearing rain. It shouldn't be there. It was that it had rained for three fucking days.
Speaker 1:I've always heard that you can hear the water run because there's a water was running and when I got almost to like the second or third little outlet there to the end, bats flew like crazy. Yep, you know why?
Speaker 2:because it's dark and damp not because it's some kind of fucking right not because some kind of weird ass place.
Speaker 1:It's a dark of fucking weird-ass place. It's a dark, damp cave. People want it to be more than it is. I will never believe it's more than it is. There's no ghost. You can pretend to be a satanic endeavor worshiper or whatever the fuck you want, all you want. I don't believe that, for shit. It is a fucking limestone mine. That is a limestone mine. That will forever be a limestone mine it's dark and creepy.
Speaker 2:People think of it being the mushroom mine more than the limestone right, okay, mushroom mines, but it's dark and creepy.
Speaker 1:It will always be dark and creepy, yes it will no matter what if they walk back there and they heard me in one of the corners being like jump back, spit in my ass. That'll be on facebook in four fucking days and on wikipedia yeah and they'll be like there's some fucking ghost back there that says jump back, spit in my ass no man it's. No, it's just what it is. I wish it was more right. I want it to be more.
Speaker 2:I can't lie Like I was pumped to research this because, although you know, it's not my hometown but I, you know, moved here at 12-ish and have been here ever since, pretty much so like I mean, it's home. I went through all those rite of passage years but I had never been to the mines until we went the other day. I didn't know that yeah, I had never been there never been.
Speaker 1:That down to you, because it's not what it was. It's not what it's been.
Speaker 2:I had been up past them. I had family friends that lived up there. Like I said, my my great-grandmother worked in the mission, what it is man and it is we want it to be more yeah, it's just another place right as far as, like, we are here and I've heard like creepy stories and this and that but they're not true but part of me has this you know, to have those experiences you have to have some sort of belief.
Speaker 1:So let me tell you something. My buddy cory yeah cory with a k we. We used to go to this house that was called three doors to hell, and that's because there was three doors that led all to this one room that was supposed to be three doors to hell. Yep, I remember. Nobody believes in that shit. It's cool. All three of your rooms live in the living room. That's, that's just super. You know what that's called convenience?
Speaker 1:you had three rooms that led all the living room that means you could walk out the kitchen, out the bedroom or out the bathroom and wind up in the living room where everybody else was. But now, 20 years later, we want to call it three doors to hell maybe whoever everybody else is live hell in that room because patricia was a bitch oh, why is it patricia's?
Speaker 1:I don't know, that's just who I think maybe it's henry but other than that, well, henry too. Other than that it was a room that was led to by other rooms. It wasn't as cool as we thought it was oh but at the time we thought it was. Let me tell you what I think about ghost bullshit. I wish I believe in ghost. I'm gonna. This is my taking a stand. I'm taking a stand right now because I'm gonna tell you something is this the hill you choose to die on this?
Speaker 1:is the hill. She's done, because when have you seen a ghost photographed after 19? What 20? You ever seen a ghost in a sideways hat, a fubu jersey and some jinko jeans? Nope but they, they die just as well, right, maybe everybody gets no, no, hold on, they die just as well, right?
Speaker 2:Maybe everybody gets fancy clothes. Nope, nope hold on.
Speaker 1:They died just as well, right, yeah, okay, mitch Kaiser, sophomore year of high school, wore a FUBU jersey, jnco jeans, sunoco shoes and had dyed hair right? Uh-huh, you don't think other people did that same shit? Yeah, you've seen any ghost like that. You've seen any report of a ghost like that, all that. You've seen a report of a ghost like that. All the ghosts wear some kind of old ass doctor who 1920 titanic wearing bullshit.
Speaker 2:nobody wears nothing new, right? They're all old houses, they're right.
Speaker 1:Do you not think that at okay, and even if let's just forget that as a fact, you don't think last hundred years we've not seen it, we've not photographed one fucking ghost, one, we've not photographed one.
Speaker 2:All sorts of people claim to have right, but have we?
Speaker 1:have you ever seen one that you're like that's a ghost? No right, ghost or bullshit there's always been a way to go. This is my opinion. You die and you're out. You go to sleep, you're gone, you're out. Whatever your spirit doesn't roam around here at the krispy kreme. Unfinished business, right? It's not like I'm at dollywood, like I really wanted to ride that fucking roller coaster. Nobody, let me. I'm gonna sit here and haunt it till I get to, no it's a bit it's weird why?
Speaker 1:is that weird? Maybe that's what I want to do. I don't think it's like that you why?
Speaker 2:I mean, I just I don't know what do you think it's like? I don't know, I don't believe in ghosts either, okay, but you don't think.
Speaker 2:But my point is like, if that's what I want to do was like maybe I wanted to ride the fucking goddamn chain at fucking usually I mean from all tv, books, right tv and fake shit but like the unfinished business is usually like something that changes the ghost right, oh, let's change the life of the ghost yeah yeah, they didn't get the fucking loft house cookies at walmart like I got, so they're pissed off, just wanted a kiss well, well, fuck Casper, he should have put.
Speaker 2:I don't really know. It wasn't really that it was the wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is my I just I wish I could believe in that stuff. I just don't see. I don't see it coming. I wish I believed it at the, at the mushroom mines. I wish I believed I went back in there. I don't get wrong. I believe there are people who gather up back there and think they're doing what they say they're doing right. I think there is a devil little worshiping cult that probably goes back there and they spray paint.
Speaker 1:fucking suzy's got a moist puss on the wall. Or devil down for 666 or Slipknot rules or whatever the fuck they want to put on the wall. I think they believe that, mm-hmm, but I don't.
Speaker 2:Right, and I think they're dumb for believing it.
Speaker 1:That's not what I mean, and I would like to meet them face to face.
Speaker 2:Okay, Well you can meet them by yourself. Actually, no, I should probably be there, so they don't draw you in, you'll be, like this sounds awesome.
Speaker 1:Oh, speak. You know why she says that? Nope, I'm going to tell Okay, why can't I tell Heaven's gate? All right, our next podcast is probably going to be on just a freelance kind of hodgepodge, like why don't we believe? Why do we believe certain things? What do we like more than ever? Or what podcast do we like what? Uh, what's the word I'm looking for? What group, what is that called? What is what? What weird ass group do we believe in? Is that what I'm trying to say?
Speaker 2:I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
Speaker 1:You're trying to put me on an island right now, though. What, what, what.
Speaker 2:The nomination.
Speaker 1:No, basically what it is. We watched a documentary on the Heaven's Gate fucking, Cult, cult. These were the fuckers that put on all new like jumpsuits and nikes and fucking drank the kool-aid and went to fucking hayley's comet or they thought they did some yeah so your boy emailed him and got in touch with a couple of the former members. And I'm just trying to get inside. I want to get inside. Why are you? Why are you shaking your head right now? You didn't. You didn't come up with no support just now.
Speaker 2:I had to figure out my own I think they're weird as fuck.
Speaker 1:They're motherfuckers. Thought they were gonna go to outer space and they used to watch star trek as like a training plan. You realize that, right, star trek was their training plan. Yeah, yeah, let that, let that sit in. I want everybody said out loud star trek was their training plan. Yeah, yeah, let that, let that set in. I want everybody said out loud star trek was their training plan yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 1:That'd be like. That'd be like me watching the bush's bean commercial. Be like I'm just getting prepped up boys getting prepped up bush's beans no, that's how you do your thanksgiving training right so I emailed them, I got in touch with them, I got some paperwork and I convinced them I wanted to join. And they don't listen this part. You think they listen to this? No, I mean, if they do, my cover's blown now. But I bet you a dime to a baguette that they don't remember me now.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm coming for you, they don't know. I mean that's weird, is it? Yeah, why I? Don't know why is it weird? I'm coming for you.
Speaker 2:All right, then I'm done when you are.
Speaker 1:It's just funny and done.
Speaker 2:Keep talking. I don't know, it just makes me laugh, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not recording, you are only what. Yeah, keep going, hurry, keep going, keep talking.
Speaker 2:Why I don't like that. What are you doing?
Speaker 1:Just talking, keep talking.
Speaker 2:Just keep talking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you ready.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we've talked about all the stuff with the mushroom mines.
Speaker 2:We've talked about. Yeah, all of that.
Speaker 1:That's weird. It's weird stuff, but our first Patreons wanted it, so they got it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they did, and I hate that I don't have more stories.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's more for it though I think you've done what you can do.
Speaker 2:That's what I was gonna say, like everything that I kept like looking at it was kind of the same thing it was. You know, we saw this, these people that were in cloaks, or we heard something down by the water. You know, we heard crying, we heard screaming, we heard laughing, um, we saw lights in the distance. Well, okay, maybe that's somebody else with their flashlights, I don't know, because we met some people down there.
Speaker 1:We ran into some people the minute we got down there. We did.
Speaker 2:So everything was stuff like that the weird altar, the rooms and there's stuff everywhere. We talked about this while we were there. There were fires everywhere. People dragged tires in. While we were there, you know, there were fires everywhere. People dragged tires in Like there were chairs, there's old I don't know. There was stuff hanging from the ceiling in some places. If you go far enough back in there, there are still pallets and like old equipment and it just yeah.
Speaker 1:So I was like it's wild, make your own judgment, right? I just yeah, so I was like. It's wild. Make your own judgment.
Speaker 2:Right, I just, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's your shit show to enjoy.
Speaker 2:With it. It's really easy to get caught up. It's really easy to feel the creep factor because the further you go it's dark. And what is really scarier than being in the dark and losing your sense of direction and being somewhere that you could easily get lost? And losing your sense of direction and being somewhere that you could easily get lost? You take all the wrong turns in this mine and you know it's dark and you don't have your sense of direction. And then you know, then you let everything go.
Speaker 2:So when you talk about letting everything go, Right, yeah, you're in the dark and you lose your senses. And well, maybe Jim John is, you know, two quarters of a mile ahead of you, but it's dark and you can't see them.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Here we go Three, two, one.
