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Elevator to Nowhere: Unraveling the Mysteries of LA's Deadliest Hotel

Mitchell and Amanda Kiser Season 1 Episode 2

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We dive into the dark and twisted history of Los Angeles' Cecil Hotel, a place steeped in death, murder, and unsolved mysteries. From the infamous Elisa Lam case to its connections with serial killers Richard Ramirez and Jack Unterweger, this haunting landmark has earned its reputation as one of America's most sinister buildings.

Speaker 1:

oh shit, episode three. And I just noticed while we were listening to that I got a rip in my gosh damn shorts, oh you wear those all the time I do and I got a little rip in them. I don't know, that's probably from Rough House with the Dog.

Speaker 2:

I bet it is.

Speaker 1:

Rough House with the Pups.

Speaker 2:

Claws gotta be clipped.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, I know that's off subject, but I just looked down as we were listening to that song and realized I had a hole in my shorts. That all oh shit Got a hole in my shorts. Anyway, what is up, it is St Patty's Day.

Speaker 2:

It is.

Speaker 1:

March. What 17th? 17th? We are Drunk in Darkness. I am Mitch and I'm Amanda, and we are here for a new episode that I know absolutely fucking nothing about. Not that I don't know anything about it, but she has refused to tell me what it's about. That's right. So I went for for a week, if not longer, now, not even knowing what in the hell to talk about, because she won't tell me what it's about.

Speaker 1:

Because it's a surprise that's right so I don't know if I know what we're doing. I don't know what we're talking about. I don't know what to tell you folks. I don't know what you'd be prepared for it's okay, you're going to know she says I'm gonna know a little bit about it, so let's find out you are.

Speaker 2:

But before we find out, I just wanted to give a shout out to our good friend, Samantha Arthurs. She's got her own podcast that we came across this past week called Appalachian Spooky Hour, so definitely check her out on whatever podcast platform you listen to.

Speaker 1:

There it is.

Speaker 2:

I mean she does some cool folklore stuff right about the area.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, her most recent one was about Waverly Hills in Louisville.

Speaker 2:

Nice, so they did an episode on that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So definitely check it out Right. I think she does it with some of her friends.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, some of her friends, MJ Kerr and Shel Pomeroy, most of the time, but a lot of times she's just by herself too. So give her a listen, give her a review, share her stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, definitely Because that's really.

Speaker 2:

that's what helps us out. That's what we like.

Speaker 1:

True story, If you get on whatever podcast platform you're listening to us on, to Samantha, on to ever who you listen to. If it's Rogan, it's whatever. Review them, give them some stars. Yeah, never mind. You know what.

Speaker 2:

Fuck Rogan, he's got enough people, he's good yeah, he's number one, always he is good yeah.

Speaker 1:

But all the little folks review them, put some stars on their stuff. If you don't like them, then tell them, I guess. But if you do like them, definitely review them, rate them, because that helps out tremendously.

Speaker 2:

Right, you know, because it's fun and we like it and we love to know if you like it.

Speaker 1:

It's a true story. We like, like, know what you like and don't like, and we didn't put this in our little pre-game ritual that we always talk about before we start recording. We do have a youtube now, so check that out. Uh, currently it's just the recordings, but we are about to revamp our little studio area we are about to start recording, and when I say recording, I mean filming what we're doing so. You're gonna see us here in the, in the flesh I gotta put a face on I can't just look like a homeless person sitting here anymore.

Speaker 1:

I gotta wear pants from now on. I can't just drink tequila and underwear.

Speaker 2:

We can do waist up it's fine.

Speaker 1:

I mean I'll do waist down. Pants are stupid. I'll do waist down, I don't care ask anyone that knows me pants are dumb they're unnecessary. They are, and I'll drink tequila underwear.

Speaker 2:

I don't care who sees and hey, you know what, patreon, if you on our Patreon, maybe we'll put some polls up. Help us figure out how we want to do our studio, because we got some ideas.

Speaker 1:

Hey, let me tell you about Patreon right now. If you get on right now, you'll see my future, your future what I want to say future ex-wife, because you hadn't seen the video yet, but you'll see my current wife in her PJs with the little kangaroo pouch, his forever wife. Until she sees the video of her dancing to some John Party.

Speaker 2:

I've done, seen the video.

Speaker 1:

Because I showed you. So it is on Patreon, but we do have a Patreon that we're going to start putting a bunch of stuff on. We just got to get some people on there to say what's up and hang out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and we actually we did get our first subscriber. We what's up and hang out? Yeah, and we actually we did get our first subscriber. So that, like request for an episode already taken, and, what's funny, our first two subscribers, the first two people that said, hey, I'm going to do your Patreon, requested the same thing.

Speaker 1:

That's right, and that'll be next week's episode.

Speaker 2:

So we're going to do that next week and I'm not going to say what it is and you gotta wait to find out, but you that requested it, you know.

Speaker 1:

Hey, speaking of waiting to find out, I don't know what we're doing this week, because I waited a week.

Speaker 2:

First I want to talk about what we're drinking tonight. We've mixed it up a little bit Ooh, it's nasty, Nasty so.

Speaker 2:

I got a little something going on. Our youngest had a virus this weekend, you know, because when he wants to snuggle with me is when he's sick, because he's 12 and he's too cool to hang out with mom anymore. So he coughed in my face a couple times and now I think I might be catching it little mild fever, a little scratchy throat. So we're trying to kill it out by taking some tequila shots not just tequila shots. Not just tequila shots 11.99, that's right we're playing legends of the hidden temple with oh montezumaezuma here.

Speaker 1:

Montezuma.

Speaker 2:

Montezuma tequila shots.

Speaker 1:

It's rough, so it's woo. I don't like tequila.

Speaker 2:

We also didn't have a lime, so we have some lime juice that we evidently left we have not even used. I'm just chasing it with me Dr Pepper.

Speaker 1:

We have a sock grinder. She's chasing it with Dr Pepper. I'm shooting it straight.

Speaker 2:

And I'm also chasing it with some angry orchard peach mango, so you know.

Speaker 1:

This may be the drunkest episode we've done.

Speaker 2:

This might be my drunkest, because not only that, I also had some bromophed that had some pseudophed in it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I did feed her some cough syrup prior.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because we're trying to knock this out, because we got big plans tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

We do. We have a concert to go to tomorrow. We do Everclear.

Speaker 2:

That's at that, millennial Gen X right.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I just like Everclear. I don't give a fuck, I like Everclear.

Speaker 2:

We are Gen Xs at heart but fall into the millennial category, unfortunately.

Speaker 1:

Isn't there Gen Z? What does that mean?

Speaker 2:

That's like Gage. That's our youngers.

Speaker 1:

That's younger than us. We are not Gen Z. I think, we're just old. Though Feel better, Because it is St Patty's Day. I have a shot glass to the top of the rim of tequila.

Speaker 2:

And I got a baby shot.

Speaker 1:

My wife has a baby shot, that's enough.

Speaker 2:

It's been rough today.

Speaker 1:

I'll give it to her. She's dealt with some sickness. Had a lot of sleep lately and the first shot I gave her was to the rim and in the last couple have been little baby shots, but your boy has taken about six full shots moderation is not something he understands fuck moderation. You only live once. This is what we're doing, so we do this shot.

Speaker 2:

What is it here for? Here for a good time, not for a long time boys. This is to all of our drunken darkness subscribers and fans and listeners patty's day, because I can't drink beer and we don't have any green beer.

Speaker 1:

I do have a green boot. He's got a green boot for it. I can put some tequila in the boot.

Speaker 2:

You could put some in your orchard in it.

Speaker 1:

Tequila in the boot would be bad. Hey folks, this is shots for you. Here we go.

Speaker 2:

Woo.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, oh, it's bad.

Speaker 2:

Wow, so bad that is rough, I rough.

Speaker 1:

I don't know who invented that. Who wants to drink that?

Speaker 2:

don't do it, friends, don't do it tell me.

Speaker 1:

So I need to know what this episode is about, because I'm about to tell you what I fucking know about you are and you're gonna know some things.

Speaker 2:

So I initially because we were like, let's mix it up this time, let's do some weird, let's do some folklore stuff, let's do you know, like those, um, what would you call the Mothman? What is it?

Speaker 1:

It's a folklore, it's urban legends. Urban legend yeah.

Speaker 2:

Let's do those things.

Speaker 1:

That's what you think. He fucking shows up at your doorstep with them big beady red eyes.

Speaker 2:

Right. But we all know like I love some true crime, but I didn't just want true crime. So initially I started this out out and we talked about this. I was going to do the story of eliza lamb oh, the caesar hotel. I know why didn't we do that exactly so, as I was researching there's so much on eliza lamb.

Speaker 1:

I can tell you about a lot about that you can that's why I didn't tell you why did I know?

Speaker 2:

because midway through my research I thought you know what? Let's not just make this another true crime person, eliza lamb Lamb, because Netflix just done that documentary.

Speaker 1:

They did that a long time ago. I still told you all about it.

Speaker 2:

Right. So we kept the Cecil Hotel and I just done America's Hotel Death. The dark history of the Cecil Hotel. You're doing the whole hotel so we can talk about some things that happened in the hotel that maybe you don't know about because I thought with Eliza Lamb you probably. So we can talk about some things that happen in the hotel that maybe you don't know about because I thought with eliza lamb you probably know what I know there and I don't know that I could come up with anything new.

Speaker 1:

So let's be honest with you. I know a little bit of shit, yeah, but I know it on eliza lamb. I don't know much about the hotel I know it's very sketchy. Yeah, I know it's been renovated several times they've tried to create it and make it into better things. But, I can tell you that the Eliza Lamb story is wild.

Speaker 1:

It is. It is wild because the video footage you'll see, the stories you'll hear. At first I thought this girl was being either chased by something or somebody. And after watching the same documentary several times and reading several articles, about watching the video right. I do think maybe she was a girl who was off her meds right I think what got everybody real fucked up was the fact that the first report come out and said that the if you don't know the story, uh, definitely check the documentary out.

Speaker 2:

You should, it's called the Vanishing at Cecil Hotel. It's on Netflix.

Speaker 1:

A brief rundown that I can give you is a girl was videoed in the elevator doing some really weird shit.

Speaker 2:

We'll go over that too.

Speaker 1:

Acted very weird. They ended up finding her naked body in a water tower on top of the hotel.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

The first report to come out said that the lid on top was locked, which was actually would have been unable to have been done from underneath. What truly happened was it was not locked, and it did come out that the cop who said it was locked was not correct. It was open. It was open, the top was open. So the first report to come out said the top was shut and locked and everybody wondered how in the hell you could do that.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it was locked, it was just a heavy lid that was shut.

Speaker 1:

It shut.

Speaker 2:

Either way Supposedly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, either way it was unable to be shut from her at that angle and that depth and the water and at her size. Right. So it come to find out that it was indeed left open. So once that came out, it made more sense that maybe she was off her meds. She had a history of sight problems.

Speaker 2:

But now let me get to what I do know this hotel's on Skid Row. It is. There was a desire to depopulate Skid Row. You have a ton of phenomenal conspiracy theories.

Speaker 1:

Are we talking about the TB test?

Speaker 2:

No, that's yes.

Speaker 1:

The TB test is crazy Because the TB so.

Speaker 2:

Not test, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

There is a conspiracy that possibly that she was either infected with or with TB to spread it to the folks on Skid Row. If you don't know what Skid Row is, it is the. Is it miles or blocks of homeless folks?

Speaker 2:

So it is like the I think it's like the highest majority of homeless population in LA.

Speaker 1:

It's tent city, baby, it's just fucking blocks and miles of homeless folks.

Speaker 2:

So it's like homeless prostitution drugs. It's just like overrun this area that they do not know what to do with it and they can't just kick them out, so they just let them fucking stay there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and they're basically just, I don't know if they're tearing, I don't know what is happening. I mean, basically, you don't want to go there. If they're full, nobody wants to visit there it's a super dangerous place very sketchy, very dangerous, and so the theory is that she had been infected with, possibly, a tb mutation of the virus.

Speaker 2:

Right, because there's a virus named it is like her name spelled her name backwards, it's lissa, limb or whatever.

Speaker 1:

I'm. Yeah, it's whatever.

Speaker 2:

It's her name backwards I don't know it exactly, but I know that. So what makes that such a great conspiracy theory is that she's a canadian student that you know was traveling down from like she agreed with her parents that she would travel. Gonna pause you okay, real quick.

Speaker 1:

The test is called the lamb lisa test l-A-M-E-L-I-S-A.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Which is her name? Fucking backwards.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

So now it is important to note that theory's never been proven that she had anything to do with it.

Speaker 2:

No, it's just the conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2:

But if you have a wild ass story like her Right, then you have a test that's named after her, but backwards, and I don't know if I'm right here, but I feel like I remember because I stopped my research on her. But so the university that she was attending, because she was Canadian, had a huge tuberculosis research facility. So that's where this really kind of gained. So like the name matches up, the university matches up, so it gets real weird and you've got your internet sleuths and whatever. So you know the footage is weird. The amount of time it took to find her is weird, and we even discussed this when we watched that documentary. When we watched it and they showed this footage, why were there so many cops that showed up for her? There were a lot.

Speaker 1:

There was a ton.

Speaker 2:

A lot, I mean I guess she's a girl in a water tower. But you showed up by half the fucking department. It took 19 days to find her. So it wasn't like they found her, you know how they found out.

Speaker 1:

Yep, some people who stayed in one of the rooms turned the water on and the shit was brown. Said it tasted funny and they report they drank the shit they reported it and finally somebody went up and was like holy shit, drink that tequila every day for the rest of my life. Then have to drink a young asian woman yeah, me too gross I've drunk half this bottle free of charge.

Speaker 1:

Right, you're gonna tell me I gotta drink the water that a young asian woman's been laying in. I don't care if you're asian, caucasian, african, american, indian, I don't want to drink anything you've been laying in for 19 days.

Speaker 2:

I don't care who you are my question is as a girl goes missing, there's a weird video. Why did they not sweep everything I get? It's a 700 room hotel at one point in time at its height have you watched the documentary?

Speaker 1:

yeah? The one girl the one girl that they interview is just like.

Speaker 2:

That's Amy Boo.

Speaker 1:

She's out there. She was the manager. She's out there.

Speaker 2:

She is not the manager any longer. Well, no wonder Of course it sold and whatever she has her own jewelry line.

Speaker 1:

Yes, she should.

Speaker 2:

Amazingly, it's kind of cute. I looked it up Like she was just thrown into this because it was some friends and she didn't know what she was doing. That's fine. I mean, it's not her fault. I'm going to be honest with you.

Speaker 1:

If somebody came to me right now and was like, if I ran a hotel, I was like, hey, your water tastes funny. I'd be like, well, don't drink it.

Speaker 2:

then Go buy some bottled water. Well, she needed a job, so she took this job, and she didn't have any experience in it. She was doing the best she could. But she said that it was nothing to have multiple calls and see the cops all the time. It's Skid Row, right, she said herself. There were like 80 deaths during the time. Go ahead, give me a shot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's no shot boys and girls.

Speaker 2:

She reported some wild things herself. It was just a constant thing. It was this influx. There were people that lived there short term. Long term there were people that were like homeless, that they rented rooms out really cheap too. There was all sorts of crazy stuff, but so that's what you know about it.

Speaker 1:

I know some more.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's talk about what else you know About the hotel, not just Eliza Lamb. About the hotel, not just Eliza Lamb, because there's so much more.

Speaker 1:

I'll be honest with you. I just said that out of spite, because I don't really know a whole lot. Okay, I know it's a shit hotel. I know it's been renovated several times and bought and tried to be converted into something nice. It's a super historical hotel.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

But when you add that story of Eliza Lamb to it, you kind of fuck it all up. Oh, there's so many more people like us are gonna go because we want to stay we want to stay there, we're not going we are going that's what she thinks we're going to this mall we're not.

Speaker 2:

It's not a hotel anymore what is it now? I'm gonna tell you we can't go there I don't think so, why they have slow income housing now.

Speaker 1:

So it's like hud shit now not. I mean it's different, it's kind of, but it's low-income housing now.

Speaker 2:

So it's like HUD shit now Not I mean it's different, it's kind of, but it's like vouchers, so they've turned it into apartments. It's more like a hostel, but not one that just anybody could stay in. It's, we'll get there, I promise.

Speaker 1:

All right, folks Listen. This is what's about to happen. I'm going to turn the mic over to you because, evidently, I don't know shit about what's happening there. Right, it's crazy. But I'm going to tell you this it's crazy that this girl did what she did.

Speaker 2:

Definitely look it up.

Speaker 1:

Because it's also crazy.

Speaker 2:

Watch the video it's four minutes of her in the elevator and it makes zero sense Watch the elevator footage.

Speaker 1:

The elevator footage will fuck you up. Yes.

Speaker 1:

And I don't care what anybody says, uh, the fact that there was a tb test named her and people argue that like that's what tests had been named for years before, fuck off, prove that shit to me. Come show me paperwork that shows me that tb tests were named that for years before her. No, I don't believe that for a second. If you don't think the government's up to some weird, shady fucking shit by now, well it's la. You still believe the government is so fucking like. We're on our p's and q's. We're honest as shit.

Speaker 1:

You're listen if your head is in the sand right if you're listening to this and you think the government is on your side and they're they're. Everything they say is fucking perfect. You're listening to their own podcast.

Speaker 2:

Oh lord, do people really think?

Speaker 1:

that fuck. It took the singer blink 182 to come out and say hey, ufos are real and now they're like oh well, fuck, he got us ufos are real, they are so look, you're gonna tell me they didn't try to unleash some kind of weird ass virus on all these fucking folks on skid row to get rid of them right that is a hundred percent something they would do and that doesn't even touch the corruption of the LAPD. Are you about to talk about that?

Speaker 2:

No, but that's a whole other thing.

Speaker 1:

You think there's a corruption. You think cops are corrupt? No, no way.

Speaker 2:

Not all of them Now wait a minute. Wait a minute. We've listened to enough podcasts.

Speaker 1:

I'm a huge supporter of the cops.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Like I said, not all cops, but there is some corruption in places for things A thousand percent. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I am a huge supporter of cops.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we both are, we are.

Speaker 1:

Firefighters cops. I am a huge supporter.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Is there a lot of fucking?

Speaker 2:

bullshit in-. I mean, you're a first responder.

Speaker 1:

Right, I get that. But even before that like Right think the cops get a lot of grief they're good, they're bad do I think there are bad in every situation? Yes, one thousand percent. Do I think there are shithead ass cops out here doing shithead ass things?

Speaker 2:

one thousand percent I mean ten percent of the people that work at walmart are shitty at least, so why aren't ten percent of cops?

Speaker 1:

I got kicked out of walmart because somebody was an asshole to me you remember this right, remember this right.

Speaker 2:

I remember you ought to know this story.

Speaker 1:

He called me a moron.

Speaker 2:

He called you stupid.

Speaker 1:

He called me stupid and said if I wasn't stupid I would have fixed my car myself. It had a fucking nail in the tire Right and I told him I would kick his fucking ass.

Speaker 2:

What was it? You said that if you needed directions to something on the shelf, you'd ask for something.

Speaker 1:

No, I said, if I wanted salt on my fucking fries, I would ask him.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

And he told me if I wasn't fucking? I said I'm not stupid, I know that nail is not that far back in the sidewall of your tire. He said well, if you weren't stupid, you wouldn't have brought it to us. Therefore, I threw my goggles that he'd given me across the back of Walmart's fucking tire and lube section and I threatened to whoop his ass.

Speaker 2:

Hence a two-year ban from Walmart.

Speaker 1:

That got me a two-year ban from.

Speaker 2:

Walmart it's up now Did not hurt our feelings Actually truth be told, that bitch ain't up for June.

Speaker 1:

I've been creeping up in that motherfucker now for months, though that's okay, you know why they don't give a shit, because I spend money there. Yep, you know who don't work there, no more.

Speaker 2:

That guy, that motherfucker, I'm sure.

Speaker 1:

Because I would have handicapped whooped his ass and how would he have felt if he had a handicapped guy whoop his ass?

Speaker 2:

It would have been funny.

Speaker 1:

How did we get on this?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Anyway, cops are good yes.

Speaker 1:

In LA no because you're constantly getting fucking pushed. Oh God. I don't want to know what that's like because you can't follow the rules.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to be a cop in a small town. I don't want to be Barney Fife in freaking like whatever that town was.

Speaker 1:

Paramedic for 15 years and I can promise you there are situations that you can't always follow the rules, and it's not because you're a dickhead. There are situations that you can't always follow the rules, and it's not because you're a dickhead. It's because this situation doesn't allow you to.

Speaker 2:

So if you're a cop, that's any job. You do what you got to do to get the job done.

Speaker 1:

But do I think the government's fucked up?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Hell yes, do I think they want to fucking get rid of Skid Row homeless people? Yep.

Speaker 2:

Fuck yeah, it's a lot easier to than it is to solve a real problem.

Speaker 1:

Do I think this episode is going to get demonetized Hell? Yeah, well, that's okay, but what we're going to do now. We're bringing it. Fuck it.

Speaker 2:

What we're going to do now is we're going to talk about the Cecil.

Speaker 1:

So I'm going to give quick background.

Speaker 2:

This is just your little tidbit history lesson. Cecil Hotel was built by William Banks Hanner in 1924. Opened in 1927, it was supposed to be an elite destination hotel. There was a train line that ran right through, so it was somewhere where people would get off, you know. So it was nice, it was beautiful, it had marble, it was grand, like it was supposed to be this place to be right. Unfortunately, it's been surrounded in nothing but murder, suicide, supposed unexplained paranormal events, which I found none of. So we'll just like, kind of, you know, push that to the side. But there's been lots of murder and suicide. So the Cecil Hotel has been nothing short of just full of the macabre, unfortunately built in 1927. If any of you know anything about history.

Speaker 2:

Just two years after that, the Great Depression hit hard, not just the little people. It hit the big people too. Because, cecil, here they opened up. They're expecting all this. Well, nobody has money to come now. So the Cecil didn't have anybody Like it, just like nobody had the money to come to this. Well, nobody has money to come now. So the Cecil didn't have anybody Like it, just like nobody had the money to come to this.

Speaker 2:

We're talking a building that in 1927 cost over a million dollars to build. So 700 rooms, huge, huge hotel. Even now, looking at the pictures of what it looks like now, and it's fairly like, kind of like, in the grand scheme of things, a dilapidated building as opposed to what it was at its best, beautiful building, beautiful inside. So, like we already said, the area surrounding the Cecil became well known as Skid Row, home to thousands and I mean like, like, not like a thousand, but thousands of homeless people. Quickly, huge reputation for this that it's just a place of violence and death and junkies and runaways and criminals and prostitution, like that's all. The area is known for sirens all the time, cops all the time. It is a mess, mess. It is a dangerous place, especially for someone young like Eliza Lamb.

Speaker 2:

So in the 1930s alone so we're talking open in 27, in the 30s alone, there were six reported suicides, poison shootings, jumping out of windows and even somebody slit their own throat at this hotel. This is within the first, like 13 years of opening, the first death that I came across, and the reports were a little kind of scattered here and there, but name was always the same Percy Orman Cook in 1927. One report said it was like grand opening. This guy killed himself at the grand opening and it just kind of set the tone for what this hotel was going to be like. I don't know if it was the grand opening day or not. Go ahead, you look like you had something, maybe. So said that he was in dispute with his wife and son. He couldn't fix it so he shot himself in the head. He died shortly thereafter. Obviously we're talking 1927. Nobody's living from gunshot wounds in the head then. So, like I said, some say it was during that initial grand opening. But then it was essentially kind of considered this curse that was set upon this hotel. It just kind of foreshadowed all the tragedies to come Within a few years.

Speaker 2:

1931, there was a guy that died by ingesting cyanide capsules. There was a man it was, I believe he was a veteran ex-marine, I think slit his throat in the hotel in 1944. We're talking Dorothy Jean Purcell. She was 19, staying at the Cecil. She was with some man said to be in his 30s. I don't know if they were an item, if they were fleeing. I don't know what they were. But she had some bad stomach cramps, stomach pain. She thought she was sick, went to the bathroom. The bathroom, and lo and behold, she was in labor, delivered a baby boy, claimed she didn't know she was pregnant, chucked the baby out the damn window wait a minute.

Speaker 1:

So she gave birth to a baby. Yep, she didn't know she was pregnant so she says supposedly had a baby, said fuck, fuck these kids fuck them, kids and threw it out the window yep that is a confirmed story.

Speaker 2:

Confirmed story I've got I mean babies.

Speaker 1:

What story, what?

Speaker 2:

I got some pictures you can. I don't want to see that baby, not, not the baby of her how high was she up?

Speaker 1:

I mean baby's, dead right baby's dead.

Speaker 2:

So her story was that she thought she delivered a stillborn baby now fuck didn't want the man to know that she had delivered a baby the man she was with, so she threw it out the window.

Speaker 1:

What year was this?

Speaker 2:

1944.

Speaker 1:

Now shit.

Speaker 2:

She threw it onto the roof of the building next door. So she's high up. There's a building next door with a lower roof. Check the baby. The baby, of course, died. She went to trial. She was found innocent of murder. By reason of insanity bullshit she was put into a psych facility. We're talking I guarantee it 1944, psychiatric facilities like she's probably such a bullshit she's probably haunting some psychiatric facility. Now it's, yeah, our friend sam arthur's probably such a bullshit.

Speaker 1:

She's probably haunting some psychiatric facility now it's yeah, our friend sam arthur's probably probably found her at fucking waverly hills and shit.

Speaker 2:

That's such a bullshit, fucking excuse threw out the baby onto the building like I. Just I was like, oh my god, she was admitted treatment whatever found not guilty by reason of insanity, maybe she was, I don't know. She was 19 I didn't look I didn't look further into it, but here's a fun one and this was what got me. I think that kind of made me pull a little bit towards this, like the dark history. It said that in 1947 one of our very favorites, the first episode elizabeth short was a resident.

Speaker 1:

Oh shit the cecil hotel. Shit, the black diet, the black diet, just bring it. Just before she was a resident, oh shit Of the Cecil Hotel.

Speaker 2:

No shit, the Black.

Speaker 1:

Dahlia, the Black Dahlia Bring it Just before she died.

Speaker 2:

It's alleged that she was spotted drinking. I believe it is on the books that she stayed there within the week before that she was murdered, that's dope. I like it. She was found just a couple blocks over, so it was within relative close distance to the Cecil.

Speaker 1:

Listen if you haven't checked that episode out. Was that our first?

Speaker 2:

episode. It was our first episode, our very first episode Drunk in Darkness episode one the Black Dahlia Season one.

Speaker 1:

Virgin episode. Yes, first fucking episode we done. There's my wife, tayshia shot a tequila. We hammered that one out. That was a proud episode. That was a oh. She didn't like Boys and girls, she didn't like that shot.

Speaker 2:

I did not.

Speaker 1:

It did not settle good with her. She shucked and shimmied and shaked like Billy Ray Cyrus. Cold chill throughout my whole body Achy breaky heart, son, she Wow Get with it. Anyway, that was a. We were proud of that episode.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we.

Speaker 1:

You did some good research.

Speaker 2:

I did a lot of research.

Speaker 1:

We were proud of the episode.

Speaker 2:

It's such a good case I just like it is wild because the true crime around me is like I can figure this out.

Speaker 1:

So that's let me tell you what happened. Let me break this off a little bit. What happens? We talk about a lot of stuff during the day. Because we spend a lot of time together, we spend probably what Shit we spend about every.

Speaker 2:

A lot.

Speaker 1:

And we talk a lot about true crime and conspiracy and paranormal.

Speaker 2:

What makes us tick man?

Speaker 1:

Everything. What my wife does is, in the evening time, when everything settles down, she puts on the Discovery or True Crime channel and she looks at me and she tells me everything that the lady's done wrong on these documentaries. She will tell me what they did wrong to not get away with the murder. Now let me tell you what is not very humbling or convincing is to get ready to go to bed and your wife look at you and be like you know what she done wrong. She didn't use the right amount of bleach to water to get rid of the blood on the linoleum. When she's chopped him up, she should put him in the freezer three days prior before she fucking called the cops you remember the day I told you how many apple seeds you could crush to create cyanide, to kill somebody right.

Speaker 1:

So I'm just saying that's. What she does is that she tells me all the things that these ladies done wrong and why they didn't get away with murder and the way they could have gotten away with murder. So until your wife looks deep in your eyes and into your soul and tells you how these ladies get away with murder, you don't know what I go through every day.

Speaker 2:

Don't be listening to that nonsense. I keep a note in my pocket to let everybody know if something happens.

Speaker 1:

Mitchell, done it but when I say, if something happens to her, I'm gonna paint a fucking punisher skull on my car and me and my daughter to go around and avenge her fucking soul, I mean that I would do that you would be the one to bury me in the hole with your dog.

Speaker 2:

My dog won't be around for that, but our dog has cancer, we're just real sad right now our dog does have lymphoma. Let's here's to rory that's right, that shot was for him the next shot's for rory we that's right he my spirit animal. He's on the prednisone and the gabapentin, like I am.

Speaker 1:

That's right, he's moving, though they said he wouldn't be around till Christmas, and he's here, it's fucking St Paddy's Day and he's in there rocking ass right now, that's right. He needs a, never mind he doesn't need a, let me tell you about the Seas Hotel again, though.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I don't know much about it. Yep, you've told me more about it than I ever knew.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know that the Black Dahlia stayed there, I didn't either.

Speaker 1:

That's wild. So this was days, weeks before, just a week or so prior.

Speaker 2:

It says within days. It says the week before-ish. Yeah, Just a few days.

Speaker 1:

So she was in guy Right Because she made up these stories that her husband was in the military.

Speaker 2:

Or he was an MIA, or he was a POW. Yep.

Speaker 1:

So she always had these ways to sneak into guys' bedrooms man To make a living. She was a little shady.

Speaker 2:

She was shady.

Speaker 1:

Until she got with her own dude, which we all I think you and I think was the same guy I think we agree who might have murdered her. There's yeah, there's so much. There's a lot of evidence of saying who murdered her. But that, if you don't believe us, go back and listen to the episode, episode one, the black dahlia. Uh, go ahead, let me.

Speaker 2:

Let me know what else is going on, okay so 1962, george gianni I believe it is gian yeah, he was killed while working by the Cecil Hotel, so not working walking. So this man, paul, he was like 65. He's just walking by when none other than Pauline Otto, 27 years old, jumped from the ninth floor window after an argument with her estranged husband. Basically she jumped thinking she was going to make a point to him and she killed both her her herself and mr george instantly.

Speaker 1:

She wait a minute. What? How did she kill two people? She jumped he.

Speaker 2:

She jumped out the window, but he was walking by and she landed on him. He killed both of them not like barbarian where they both lived hey, if you haven't watched that movie, check that out barbarian what's that on?

Speaker 1:

What are we watching on Paramount Plus HBO Max? Something.

Speaker 2:

HBO Max Check that out. It was wild.

Speaker 1:

What's his name? Bill Skarsgård, I call him Skarsgård. Skarsgård. He played Pennywise in New it Yep.

Speaker 2:

He is playing Keith playing eric draven in a new crow and he makes a fucking excellent crow. Can't wait for that but check out where why are we? And then, what was it justin long?

Speaker 1:

why are we shouting out randomly? We're not getting paid for the shit. Fuck that, but anyway what? Yes, justin long is in it. You know justin long is.

Speaker 2:

He played in the comedy accepted with uh, jonah hill, but he makes such a good crummy person, such a douchebag in the barbarian, you gotta check it.

Speaker 1:

Got to check it out. Check the Barbarian out. It is a fucking. If you like horror movies, it is right up your alley.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of this like you know it's leading to something and you're getting almost frustrated with it, kind of movie Like I'm like I hate this movie. I said it like 14 times. I'm like I hate this, I hate this, I hate him, I hate everybody.

Speaker 1:

Right, but you liked it.

Speaker 2:

But I did, I loved it. I would watch it again.

Speaker 1:

It was a wild movie. I even had somebody kind of ruin the movie for me that I work with. But she didn't. But she didn't actually she didn't. She just told me one part and there was so much fucking chaos in this movie. Yeah, check it out, the Barbarian, you're going to want to watch it.

Speaker 2:

Wildness.

Speaker 1:

Bill Snarsgaard.

Speaker 2:

Skarsgård.

Speaker 1:

There you go, justin Long.

Speaker 2:

The Kid.

Speaker 1:

The Kid.

Speaker 2:

Sorry, that was from who's the Kid he done.

Speaker 1:

he played the kid who did scars guard oh, scars guard's good man he's so good, he's got that face like he played a good pennywise, so on amazon prime.

Speaker 2:

What was the name of it? I don't even remember. Yeah, he plays the kid. They got two seasons and it canceled and it was so freaking sad because it was such a good movie. It was um. It was based off the stephen king novels with um jj abrams, castle rock there it is such a good series oh, that's when he was like in prison.

Speaker 1:

He kept asking for that same lawyer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they canceled that yeah, it like tied to like salem's lot and then and the shining and it had all these characters.

Speaker 1:

It was amazing it sucks now because you have to like so even though it's two seasons. Definitely watch it because it's amazing, but it sucks, because now you like, when you're streaming, like on something, you have to be, so like it can't like. I seen what is the show we watched, that they had come out on twitter and was like it doesn't matter how much you watch, you have to do this, this, yeah, to get us renewed yeah, like they will cancel shows.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it sucks, man, because it's not all about views.

Speaker 1:

Right, it's about, like, how many people talk about you on twitter. How, how many people talk about you on social media? How many do this? How about just fucking?

Speaker 2:

putting the show out. So that's what we're doing. We're talking about this on our podcast, and whatever. Bill Skarsgård, that's right. What's his real name? That's it.

Speaker 1:

Snarsgård, skarsgård.

Speaker 2:

Skarsgård.

Speaker 1:

You said it right. The first time he played the kid, yeah, but he plays a fucking hell of a character named keith in the barbarian and you're gonna I don't think I've seen him be bad in anything no, he's a good actor, he's, and he's getting ready to play eric graven in the crow and if you've never seen the crow, I've introduced to my son, who's 12, yep, my stepdaughter, who is 18, her boyfriend, who's 18, who said he had maybe seen it.

Speaker 2:

He had seen the original. She'd she had never seen it.

Speaker 1:

Yep, my stepdad had never seen it. Yep, my stepson had never seen it. We introduced him. He loved it. Yep, he thought it was excellent. I, of course, think it's one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, I was obsessed.

Speaker 1:

The original Crow has Brandon Lee, who is Bruce Lee's son, in it and it is shot and killed during the scene. Somebody loaded a gun without a blank and he actually got shot, I believe, in the stomach, and died. But he died during the filming of the movie, so they had to do what they do to fix that.

Speaker 2:

And who knows, maybe that's a future episode.

Speaker 1:

Maybe Conspiracy theories of Hollywood actors, but if you've never seen the Crow, check it out. Then catch old Bill Skarsgård in the new Crow that's coming out.

Speaker 2:

But before that Listen, we're drunk, we're just talking. I love it. Tell me about this hotel. I'm going to do this shot.

Speaker 1:

This is for Eliza Lamb.

Speaker 2:

There we go.

Speaker 1:

Do you want one? No, I got a drink and her tragic death at the Cecil Hotel.

Speaker 2:

That's right, and I'll talk about her in a minute.

Speaker 1:

All right, go ahead and hit me, I'm going to do a shot of tequila.

Speaker 2:

So not one of the most notable to us, but one of the most notable for the hotel itself.

Speaker 1:

PS, that's awful.

Speaker 2:

It is awful.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God. But it's notable because it's one of the most violent deaths that's been reported was that of Goldie Osgood. She was like a retired, not broker, but she was like a retired Maybe, maybe she was a broker, I'm not really sure. But in 1964, she was a long term resident of the hotel. Basically she like lived there, she well liked, she was kind, she was kind of like this staple, like everybody that come through, anybody that stayed for any extended period of time knew who goldie was. She didn't have money, she didn't really have anything, but nonetheless she was killed at the hotel, and not just killed, but like it was horribly, horribly violent. It because her room was ransacked. They thought, or have said, that maybe it was a robbery. She was beaten, she was raped, she was stabbed and she was choked to death with a rag like shoved down her throat.

Speaker 2:

Her death was never solved, like most of the cases throughout the area, not just the hotel but Skid Row. It's just like these are homeless people, they're drug addicts. Nobody freaking cares, nobody cares. So her death was never solved, even though there were several other murders in the area that fit as in. Maybe it was a profile, maybe it was a serial killer, whatever. So they're like, let's just get wrote this happens. So that was 1964. So then we move into the 80s. In the 80s we're still talking cheap as hell rooms 14, a14 a night Damn For some of these rooms. And this, at this point in time, became the residence of a serial killer.

Speaker 1:

Uh-oh.

Speaker 2:

But if anybody knows serial killers, you know this man, richard fucking Ramirez.

Speaker 1:

The Night Stalker. The Night Stalker. He stayed at the hotel.

Speaker 2:

He lived on the top floor in the hotel, and not only did he live there, they said that he would come in in bloody clothes, or he would come in in his underwear with blood on his skin, or he would come in butt-ass naked, because he threw his clothes in the dumpster after murdering a victim.

Speaker 1:

So nobody said nothing about this.

Speaker 2:

No, one said nothing because it's fucking skid row. Weird things happen all the time.

Speaker 1:

Nobody, I mean if I went to the mcdonald's down the road in my boxers and a fucking pair of flip-flops, somebody would call the cops on me yes, but it's skid row.

Speaker 2:

People come in crazy. All the time. He lived on the top floor of the hotel okay and it just that's basically it.

Speaker 2:

They're like, well, he would dump his clothes in the hotel dumpster, he'd come through the lobby and nobody said anything. And this is all. According to journalist josh dean um that this all happened and said he lived there because it was cheap and why not? Like nobody questioned anything. He was, of course, caught later. You know his picture circulated around and there was no doubt that it was him. He was detained by some bystanders until cops got there after the fact. I say murder of 13, because that's what he was convicted of 13 murders. He was probably many more. Let's be honest, he's he's a mess. And if you're into the serial killer thing and you don't know him, look him up. It's wild and he was scary, very scary. But he was not the only serial killer set to stay in this hotel Later, in 1991, austrian serial killer Jack Unterweger it might be Unterweger, because when we're talking like German European that W sometimes sounds like a V, so I'm not certain.

Speaker 2:

He stayed at the Cecil as well. Some reports say that he chose this as his home because of its connection to Ramirez. Other people say, you know, it was just because it was convenient, whatever. So this man was arrested back in his European country of home I don't honestly remember where that's at For some things that he had done. He spent some time in prison. While in prison he wrote books. He kind of became almost like a celebrity. He became kind of well-liked. People were like oh, he's so much better, he learned his lesson. They vied Like people really petitioned for his release. Upon his release he immediately started killing again, obviously because he was a crummy person. He then, as a journalist, that's what pissed me off.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

People petitioning for releases when they don't know the fucking story, because they want to protect people's rights because they want to protect people's rights.

Speaker 2:

You don't know the fucking story.

Speaker 1:

How about sitting down and shutting the fuck up?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, how about really looking into it first, right?

Speaker 1:

If we can do a podcast. I'm sorry, I don't mean to catch it. But if we can do a podcast in an hour and we can discover that this motherfucker probably done it or doesn't need to be out in the public, then your fucking goofy ass doesn't need to be sitting behind your couch smoking your Marlboros, cutting coupons out, deciding who needs to live and die.

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Sorry. No, you're fine, let me get up on my horse, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

So he did. He went, under the pretense of journalism, to LA. He started killing women. Most of his victims, or his choice, what he liked to kill were women. Obviously he really liked to kill prostitutes. Being next to Skid Row it made it a perfect place Prostitutes, drugs it's an easy target man. You know like it's easy to kill somebody and nobody care. But his preferred way to strangle or kill these people was by strangulation with their own lingerie, own bras, underwear, whatever. He was eventually caught in Florida because after things started looking funny in LA, he went to Florida. He got caught. He got extradited back. He declared innocence always. He never admitted, but whatever he sucks. So that's really a huge majority.

Speaker 2:

There are obviously other cases of violence, death, things that have went on stabbings, they said the cops were called all the time to this, but in 2013,. So we're talking. There's a big gap here because there wasn't anything superbly notable. We got Eliza Lamb. She was. She was found nude in the hotel water tanks 19 days after she went missing 19 days and, like you said, because not just the one guest that we saw on the documentary, but multiple guests were complaining. The water was discolored and funny tasting and the water pressure was weird, so they finally checked those water tanks question for you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I raised my hand. Y'all didn't see this, but I raised my hand.

Speaker 2:

I'm right, I'm a polite gentleman he says that because one day he talked and I was like I'm still talking she talked for 45 minutes and I was like, hey, and she was, I'm still talking and I shut up so yeah, I raised my hand now sometimes alcohol gets me. Is that what?

Speaker 1:

brought her. So out of all these cases, as much as you know that I'm really obsessed with her case Right, and I didn't know a lot about his other case- I had no idea that Black Dahlia stayed there. I didn't either. So what brought her case to the forefront to be so important? Because why didn't we hear and I get. The years have changed. I get that Like Black Dahlia was in the whatever years and I get that Like Black Dahlia was in the whatever years and Lisa Lam or Eliza or Eliza.

Speaker 1:

Eliza Lam was in the whatever era. What is that? Just a change in like. Now there's internet sleuths. Right Like what was that documentary you watched? Don't Fuck With Cats.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and that was mentioned too.

Speaker 1:

Like they found that motherfucker, like you don't watch that documentary.

Speaker 2:

It's yeah, so check out that documentary.

Speaker 1:

Don't fuck with cats, because that will teach you don't fucking do anything. You don't want somebody to find out, because the internet is full of fucking people who have nothing better to do than sit on their fucking ass and figure things out, and figure things out, and if you fucked up. I promise you, they will fucking find you they will.

Speaker 2:

So what is that what?

Speaker 1:

brought this case because all these cases you mentioned I've never really heard about.

Speaker 2:

Maybe briefly but nothing that's stuck in your head besides this one right which is pronounced.

Speaker 1:

Hit me with it. What eliza lamb? Eliza lamb. Eliza Lamb, I'm real redneck man, that's okay, I eat squirrel like six months ago. I tell people all the time, like I'm so redneck, I'm so eastern Kentucky, that I had squirrel gravy like six months ago. That's okay. You can't expect me to pronounce names correctly right now.

Speaker 2:

It's okay, eliza Lamb, eliza Lamb, yep, yep, and there was a tv test that was out called.

Speaker 1:

Is it like like lamb eliza or lam eliza, like yeah, it's just fucking weird, is what it is. Why do you make that? If that's, if that's not something weird, how does it just translate I?

Speaker 2:

definitely think the age of the internet changes things, because and I honestly I don't maybe it's because they didn't look at it or really push it crazy as a homicide. I don't know, I don't know. But the four minute footage the YouTube video because it's on YouTube friends and we can link it, that's fine, but the video of her it's four minutes in the elevator and it's crazy. So in this video I'm just going to give you a brief rundown Like she comes in, she presses like multiple buttons. She kind of like peeks out the door and then she backs up and she like presses her body to the wall like she's freaking hiding. So, like you know, when you get in an elevator and the buttons are there, like usually on that right, she presses herself up against that like that right side, like by the corner, like she's hiding, like she is scared of something, whether it be that she's off her meds because she was bipolar. It was very clearly noted she was bipolar, she'd had some issues. Her parents let her go because she agreed I will check in with you guys every single day, okay. So, um, and that's how she was reported missing. She didn't check in. Her parents were like, hey, she didn't check in. So they called that was the day she was supposed to be checking out of that hotel. Um, so in this video she presses herself up against like the wall and she looks scared. Something's weird, something's going on. We're're talking four minutes, it's three minutes before the elevator door ever closes. Okay, what elevator door stays open that long, ever? So she presses up against the door and then she kind of walks back out. She walks out the door, she kind of looks around, she goes back in, I believe, and she's kind of like standing there Door still isn't closed. She steps out. She starts like waving her hands. She like moves to the left side where you can't really see her, but you can see her hands. She like turns to her right. She's like waving her hands, almost like she's talking to somebody, but there's nobody else within the frame, just her. And then she steps back in, back out, and then she leaves. And then there's like another, I don't know 15 seconds or so before the elevator door ever closes, and then, like the last 45 seconds-ish is of the elevator obviously hitting other floors, doors opening, closing, opening, closing, whatever. And that's the last footage of this girl.

Speaker 2:

You know, on camera there's a lot of stuff and if you've watched the documentary, like there are some people she had had some roommates within the hotel that were like she was acting erratically. They complained about her. They put her in a room by herself. When they done toxicology on her, the levels that her medication should have been at were off. She had a Tumblr account that was basically a full ass diary of everything that was going on, so that's got tons of information. There are a few conspiracies that I hadn't heard about. There's one conspiracy that tries to link her to the Black Dahlia, because the Black Dahlia was said to have been traveling from, like, san Diego to LA to another place, and so was she. She had just come from San Diego to LA and then was moving south. She was traveling kind of down that west coast. Well, yeah, sorry guys, I'm going east west.

Speaker 1:

I'm a little drunk so I'm watching this video it's wild and it is.

Speaker 2:

It's a two minute 26 second video, two minutes 26 so that's not even the full video Right, because the full one's 4 minutes Right.

Speaker 1:

But at the 2 minute mark of this video 1 minute 51 seconds she gets out of the elevator and steps onto the floor and it's like she just gave up Mm-hmm. It's like she just accepted whatever faith was coming. Fate, sorry, was coming her way. I'm watching it now and she's doing these weird hand movements.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

And like it's beyond. Like it's not that what she's doing is physically impossible, because we all can make these hand movements, but it's like she has. It's erratic, it's very erratic and it's like at this point, she has accepted her fate and just given up to whatever is either after her or what's up here in her mind, because it's kind of. It's wild.

Speaker 2:

Because it's wild, because the way her hands are moving. And let me see, I know I had made some notes on it because it reminded me of something. So she puts her hands out in front of her but her palms are down right and she's kind of got her fingers dangly and she starts moving her hands. I don't know if anybody has ever seen Rocky Horror, but when they're doing the time warp and they're like put your hands on your hips and then they like flap their hands back and forth. That's what it reminds me of um, she's like got those hands down. She's like flapping them back and forth. So I don't know like is it sinister? Is she? Is she off of her meds? Did she ever have, you know, visual, visual hallucinations? But what is weird, it does take 19 days to find her. We're talking, you know, like I don't know. In the documentary it looks like 30 damn detectives show up. Why did they not check everything? So it's true.

Speaker 2:

The story was that she climbed into the water tank, that she lifted it herself. There's some speculation that she wouldn't have been strong enough to lift it herself. They've explained that by adrenaline, because adrenaline can make you do crazy things. She was naked when they found her, they explained that because some people, when they have those panic anxiety attacks, they do get naked and that is a very proven fact. Like sometimes, people strip their clothes off, they get naked. And if she climbed into the tank and maybe felt like her clothes were weighing her down, she may have tried to take them off Because once in the tank, there was no way she could have gotten herself out.

Speaker 1:

So I will fight that with you. No, with you. I agree with you Because, as a firefighter, I was a volunteer firefighter. One thing that sounds crazy to you is that once you panic over something, yeah, you want to strip everything off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a case of firefighters in denver who were found naked because in a in a furniture store, because once it just overwhelmed them. I was in a training with two of my best friends in a training I knew was a training. I knew there was no real fire. I knew there was no real sense of me getting hurt right I heard my pack start to beep, meaning I'm out of air. All I had to do was take my mask off and I could breathe the air that we're breathing, but I panicked.

Speaker 2:

I want to get my helmet off. I want, you want everything off of you right, because you feel constricted.

Speaker 1:

Yep, so that is a very real thing when people say why was she naked? That's a panic thing that is like it doesn't matter the reason she might have felt like, oh, I'm in this water. Um, it's just like the guy we heard about recently who fell off a car yeah he was found nothing when he they said what was the first thing you said to the uh coast guard when they found you?

Speaker 1:

and he was like I'm really sorry, but I'm naked, yeah, because you panic, yeah, and it feels const you and he was like I'm really sorry but I'm naked, yeah, because you panic, yeah, and it feels constricting and you feel like if you're out of that stuff, you have a better chance to either survive or just exist. And I can tell you firsthand that in several trainings with the fire department, I can tell you two occasions that once I ripped my helmet off and I didn't need to, and the second time I ripped my mask off of my face and I didn't need to, but I panicked because I didn't like the situation I was in.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to ask somebody that has like just general anxiety and panic disorder. There are days that I almost can't stand the way my clothes feel on me, like I'm like, oh my God, like these things have to come off. I think that's where my hatred of pants comes from, because I do feel constricted and the more panicky I get, like it floods your body with almost like this heat and I know it's a false heat because my temperature doesn't rise Like if you were to check my temperature it'd be a normal temperature. But on the inside in my brain, I'm like, oh my God, I'm hot, everything's constricting me, like I just want to get it all off. So 1000%, that's true.

Speaker 2:

Her death was ruled an accidental drowning by the coroner. Could that be shady? Yes, maybe it's not, but there were a lot of things that really did point to it. But there's a ton, a ton of like just weirdness that really leads to those speculations to. You know, people being like this is much more sinister. Some people claim that what I say her name was Amy that ran the hotel at the time that all these people knew more. But it is weird because I feel like you're doing a sweep.

Speaker 1:

Amy's weird, but I don't think she's like weird, like sinister weird, she's just kind of dumb weird and I don't mean this, like, if you're listening I know you're not amy, but if you know, if you are, you're just kind of goofy, weird, like you're not like. I've got a conspiracy to care, kill a bunch of people no, you're like hey, did I park my car in garage a or garage d because I smoked a big doobie on my way to work? Weird.

Speaker 2:

It's like that, like annoying. They're like well, I looked behind a toilet. I'm like you really thought that someone was going to fit behind a toilet, but you didn't look in the damn water tank that somebody could climb into.

Speaker 1:

I've told you several times where I'm going to die Behind the water tower, behind the water tank in the house, just to piss people off.

Speaker 2:

What water people off? What water tank?

Speaker 1:

hot water heater oh, hot water heater, because I want to be that story that ems tells to their newbies like what's the worst call you've ever had?

Speaker 2:

do you even know where a water tank is?

Speaker 1:

he ain't going behind the water tank in this house, because I think it's in that closet right there.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not, it's in the walls.

Speaker 1:

You can't get to it, yep I know that we have a little I promise you I'm not this grand. I just know where our breaker box is, but I never knew where the water. You know I don't. I love you, jerry, but I don't like it here. I know that's a different story.

Speaker 2:

I know that's another day. That's a story for another day.

Speaker 1:

Another day.

Speaker 2:

Tell me more about this. Let's wrangle her back in. The last reported death 2015. No names, no nothing, Just a man that committed suicide.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's fucking Room 2. What's? That movie with John Cusack. What's that movie? I don't Remember that movie he did, where he goes in a hotel and he says that's a Stephen King.

Speaker 2:

That's a good movie, though it is good.

Speaker 1:

Hey, we watched the Shining, the other night, we did watch the Shining. The other night, the other night, we did watch the Shining the other night and I think about this that was the first time I had sat down and watched the Shining from start to finish without being interrupted in probably my entire life, because that's a long movie.

Speaker 2:

And you even said Two hours and 40 minutes, I think you even said to me, I can't believe.

Speaker 1:

Or you may have said I can't believe, but it was watch, because I can't do that. No, to watch a movie that long especially movie I've seen before like I couldn't watch the barbarian all the way through without just wanting to move around and get up and walk around and stuff. So to watch a three-hour movie what was that? You know what that y'all didn't see? That wink I just got as president of the movie some things happen yeah, some good things don't worry about that yeah cover your ears. Earm kids Earmuffs.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully no little kids are listening to this.

Speaker 1:

That'd be weird, I want everybody to listen to this Little kids, old kids, grown kids. I want everybody and share it with your kindergarten class.

Speaker 2:

You know what my favorite thing is about the Cecil Hotel?

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 2:

And I think anybody, it's fucking creepy Anybody and is up to date on pop culture.

Speaker 1:

Hit me with it.

Speaker 2:

Knows that American Horror Story season hotel.

Speaker 1:

Lady Gaga, I was going to ask you that.

Speaker 2:

Was that about?

Speaker 1:

it Was inspired by the Cecil motherfucking hotel. Yeah, motherfuckers.

Speaker 2:

I thought that was a creepy ass season. My favorite.

Speaker 1:

So we've been. What's that movie you just watched?

Speaker 2:

A Star is Born.

Speaker 1:

With Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga. I lady gaga's a good actress. I do. I love her. Uh, if you've never seen a star is born, it's way off.

Speaker 2:

Subject what we do it is, but it's so good it's, but don't get prepared, don't get your hopes up. Nope, don't. Don't just be prepared, be prepared?

Speaker 1:

just fucking get some tissues. Emotional roller coaster man, it's fucking rough a star. This everybody knows because they performed like the vMAs and the Oscars or some shit.

Speaker 2:

Listen, Bradley Cooper could have been a rock star if he didn't want to be an actor.

Speaker 1:

Well, he's a good actor.

Speaker 2:

He's amazing, but you know what else he was good in.

Speaker 1:

A Silver Linings playbook Very good. He was fucking excellent in that movie.

Speaker 2:

Very good.

Speaker 1:

And then he turned around and're bradley cooper fans in this, we are obviously I mean, but listen as stars born is definitely worth watching and lady gaga like but I mean you can disagree with me, but she is just. I mean, she's a gal she's about to play harley quinn with the new joker with, uh, what's his name? Joaquin phoenix.

Speaker 2:

Joaquin Phoenix. He's a wild motherfucker. She is just like such a stand-up person.

Speaker 1:

He is a wild motherfucker. He was doing a rap career a few years ago, river Phoenix's brother, that doesn't give you right to be fucking wild. You weren't even fucking of age when River Phoenix OD'd it's like. That's like me being mad at my dad was a it.

Speaker 2:

It reminds me of like.

Speaker 1:

Garth.

Speaker 2:

Brooks, when he became that thing, that other person you talking, chris Gaines.

Speaker 1:

Yes, when he got the fucking beard and goatee. Yeah, chris Gaines selling records at Walmart. Under the fucking false it was Garth Brooks.

Speaker 2:

under the false tense of Chris Gaines that's what Joaquin Phoenix reminds me of when he done his thing.

Speaker 1:

He got on fucking.

Speaker 2:

But we're all over the place, man.

Speaker 1:

That's because we're drunk, were drunk. Oh, what's his name?

Speaker 2:

uh, the night host not jay leno, but the other one, jimmy fallon, no, the old one that was there.

Speaker 1:

David letterman, yes, joaquin fiennes, one david letterman, and I remember that as fucking as the rat yes, he looks like a fucking jewish, fucking irish man or a fucking amish man not irish side note like it doesn't make any sense or it doesn't pertain, but all I can think about with David Letterman is Kermit the Frog, because that's what he sounds like If you close your eyes. I'd have to listen. I wasn't ever. David Letterman always came off as kind of a cock.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Jay Leno seemed more. I think that's been fucking burnt twice. My wife's doing shots of tequila while we're not fucking talking. She's licking salt off her hands like a fucking frog and just doing shots. You guys are missing this Anyway.

Speaker 2:

Listen, I'm telling you you can't wait until you can see this on video.

Speaker 1:

Lady Gaga is the new Harley Quinn in the new Joker Alongside.

Speaker 2:

Joaquin Phoenix Right.

Speaker 1:

Because I don't understand all the fucking universes and shit, because there's like I don't try.

Speaker 2:

That's why I let our 12-year-old explain it to us.

Speaker 1:

But there's another fucking movie out with the Joker who Harley Quinn's somebody different, because it's in a different fucking universe and it's like for Marvel or fucking DC.

Speaker 2:

I don't understand it.

Speaker 1:

I get that I don't understand it.

Speaker 2:

I get that. Those two things. I don't understand it.

Speaker 1:

I don't understand. I just know that Harley Quinn is being played by fucking Gaga in the fucking Joaquin Phoenix, fucking Joker, the Joker movie.

Speaker 2:

There are different lines of comics. I know that much. I collect comics too.

Speaker 1:

You know this, I know, but like there are different levels, of like darkness. The shit's just no. No, what it is that's probably a lie.

Speaker 2:

That's just what I think of.

Speaker 1:

So you know that I collect horror shit in comics and the shit just gets too complicated because I just want to collect the shit I like.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to read.

Speaker 1:

I want to read. Right, you also collect those books that are called Blind.

Speaker 2:

Date with a Book.

Speaker 1:

So these are called-. Let me tell you about these.

Speaker 2:

It's like a grab bag.

Speaker 1:

It is a book in brown paper and on the front it will tell you if it's a mystery, comedy, thriller, young adult, whatever. It gives you a description, right, and it'll tell you a little bit about it, like what? Tell me what? Tell me what one of them says, like give me a brief rundown what like the description, I have no idea.

Speaker 1:

Like this new one says that it's a mystery and it's I think it's like some sort of sci-fi mystery must love dogs set in 1800 new orleans, and that's all you get and you don't know what the fuck it's about, unless you fucking open it. Do you know what I do while she's in the fucking other room? He opens it. I open it because I can't stand not to know what it's about.

Speaker 1:

He's not even going to read them. But don't put it on the. You're just all willy nilly. You put it on the shelf for like four months and don't even care what what it says.

Speaker 2:

I got two other books to read first.

Speaker 1:

It's stressful, I can't help it.

Speaker 2:

So currently I'm reading a book called Scythe, because our 12 year old read it. And when I say read it. He listened to it on Audible and that's fine, but I want to have something to talk to him about.

Speaker 1:

But me reading that book doesn't affect. I didn't tell you what it was about. You didn't, thank goodness, but I read it because it stresses me out is the best.

Speaker 2:

Buy a bottle of wine, blind date with a book. You got some alone time, some downtime. You've got this and it's so fun. Like you just go and there's this wall of books and brown paper bags and you're like you know what.

Speaker 1:

That sounds kind of cool I have no idea what it's gonna be, but you bought it in fucking february I bought it and you're gonna read it, you're gonna read it till august 18th and we gotta wait that long to find out what it's about. I can't. It stresses me out. I've got to find out what it's about now.

Speaker 2:

Did you already read?

Speaker 1:

You know I've already opened. You know I did.

Speaker 2:

Did you look up spoilers too, you?

Speaker 1:

know I did, I love it. I'm not going to read.

Speaker 2:

You know what I know about it.

Speaker 1:

My stress is gone Because I didn't take a scalpel, cut the top up, pulled the book out, read the front, read the back, put it back in, taped it back, put it back on the shelf. You never knew I love it. Then I looked it up online.

Speaker 2:

But you know what's even better? What? The Cecil Hotel. Oh sorry, Cecil Hotel. I always want to call it Cecil.

Speaker 1:

Why, I don't know why do you call it the Cecil?

Speaker 2:

It sounds fancier.

Speaker 1:

No, it don't. It sounds ridiculous. The Cecil, I don't know what. If you'd have named your kid Cecil instead of Cecil, who would you have made fun of? Who would you have made fun of first, cecil?

Speaker 2:

Why would you name your kid either? That I don't, I don't know any sassle.

Speaker 1:

Sounds like a damn additive you'd add to your gas tank in your fucking car Probably. I don't know why I need a tank for a sassle, I'm real weird.

Speaker 2:

I'm real weird about the way that I look at things and then I'm like, oh, I should pronounce it this way Blah, blah, blah, that's dumb.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to be honest with you. I love this eliza lamb eliza lamb and I knew about the tb conspiracy.

Speaker 2:

That's all I knew about too. So I initially was like I'm gonna do eliza lamb. I've got two separate notes entries here. And I was like I'm gonna do eliza lamb. And then I got to like researching and I was like, dang, like there's so much about this hotel, how do I not know? And I was like I'm shifting gears, how do I not know. I even told you it was like what tuesday and I was like I think I'm gonna shift gears you did tell me that we got like two days I'm gonna shift, I don't know but you didn't tell me what I did not tell you at all.

Speaker 2:

I was like I think I'm gonna shift gears because there's some other things about this and I like I think it's gonna be good the season hotel is something that I don't know.

Speaker 1:

If I mean, I think you did, you did plentiful research, but there's so much that people could look up on their own too, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like don't stop at just us no, keep looking her up, yeah and if you find something cool, let us know, because I love that shit they did. They changed the name. They were making it like the Stay on Main and it was going to be like this fancy hotel.

Speaker 1:

We're doing a shot for Amy at the Cecil Hotel.

Speaker 2:

Right, and she's not even there anymore.

Speaker 1:

Hey, amy, this is for you, yo, this is for you, baby, I hope you're flipping Burger King.

Speaker 2:

No, I hope your jewelry line makes it Good for you.

Speaker 1:

Does she have?

Speaker 2:

a jewelry line.

Speaker 1:

Really she does I promise, listen, watch the documentary on Netflix and tell me if you think she needs a jewelry line. She is.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of cute documentary.

Speaker 1:

I promise you, I was so shocked she's higher than fucking eagle pussy. I was so shocked, higher than eagle pussy. I said that. I said down there you did higher than eight.

Speaker 2:

She's high as shit I promise you, if I worked on skid row, I would be too, would you? Yeah?

Speaker 1:

if people just dying?

Speaker 2:

all day you get yourself to go there here we go.

Speaker 1:

Here you go, amy. This is for you and your jury line. Here we go.

Speaker 2:

So that is nasty, it is nasty why are we drinking that for?

Speaker 1:

because it was cheap and we have to kill whatever I got we do because we're saying can I all right, so go ahead they did change it to the stay on main for a while.

Speaker 2:

It gave it a second entrance. So their idea was like oh, we'll do some at this low income. Blah, blah blah, we'll do this nice fancy thing.

Speaker 1:

Stay on main to stay on main.

Speaker 2:

It was supposed to be hip upcoming, blah blah you still got four thousand tens of homeless people well, this had a on the other side of the block entrance oh right, let's meet on the east side that didn't work out great.

Speaker 2:

It then moved, was sold and it's you're right, it went through, like all of these renovations. So the idea was to like renovate and it was like it was bought. They were like, oh, we're going to renovate this, we're going to do all these great things. Covid happened, okay, just like everything else. Like this, like maybe it's really the Cecil's fault for all these things, maybe it's not anything else. It's like oh, we built the Cecil, the Great Depression. Oh, let's renovate and make it amazing. Covid, let's just blame that. That's a lie, really.

Speaker 2:

So after COVID happened, they decided that they would make it into housing because there's such a homeless crisis in LA. So they did all of these room adjustments and a lot of them don't have bathrooms, a lot of them don't have kitchens. They don't have this, they're just rooms. But there are some that have bathrooms, some that have kitchens, some that are communal, so it kind of has a hostile environment. There is that communal kitchen kind of thing, and what they did was they tried to go within the government establishment of being able to accept these vouchers for these displaced people, these homeless people, people that were hard on luck, so that they could kind of help them pays for your housing, you've got a room to stay. You don't have to stay in your tent, yada, yada, yada. But even as that come through, I want to say, like 2020 ish, like a third of the hotel was still empty because there's all of this red tape to cut through to get that. So the city was working or trying to help work around that so that they could help place these people into this.

Speaker 2:

But what's crazy to me, like I think about, we don't like where we live. We would love to have more room, we would love to have something that we feel is nicer. There's always that next step that you want to achieve. So you take, you think about these people that are so down on their luck and they, even then, they would like look, and there's so much bad history with the Cecil that some of them were like I'd rather stay in my car, I'd rather stay in my tent, this dwelling, no, I'm gonna pass. And they would not even like agree to go here.

Speaker 2:

Um, so so at this point, it seems that it's this kind of prerogative of whoever owns it now that they want to kind of help combat that homelessness and such, and there has been a lot of talk of like trying to redevelop Skid Row and make it better and do all of these things. But there is red tape, you know. There's all these things that you have to kind of get through to get there, and it's never a quick process, it's never an easy process and they've hit lots and lots of barriers. So it is sitting now as this kind of long-term facility, and I think the way that these vouchers work is you're supposed to have like one year to live there, work on getting things better, to get into a better situation, and that's kind of where they're sitting.

Speaker 2:

Um, so yeah, I mean like it's like this dark past. So many people say, oh, I've never seen anything, it's not spooky, it's not scary. And then other people have those stories and you know, they hear things and you know, they hear things and you know whatnot. But it does have that dark, shady past.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you can say what you want to say. You can tell me that it's a what's it for. It is a for the sea coincidence that all this bad shit happens. It's not Like too much bad shit happens's not like too much bad shit happens I feel like at one place like that's, this is just drawing those people in.

Speaker 1:

This is my personal belief. I will not put it on anybody, but I believe that too much coincidental shit happens at the same fucking place. Yeah, and I think the pronounce it for me again elisaisa Lame. There you go. And the fact that she acted so fucking bizarre and you're going to tell me there was a TB test fucking named her name backwards after her. It's just a coincidence.

Speaker 2:

I do not ever wish anything bad on anybody, but it is a much, much more interesting and intriguing thing to think that it was the TB-related thing.

Speaker 1:

I'm like holy cow, that's crazy why not infect her with TB and send her to Skid Row to fucking infect everybody else and her act crazy because she has it. I don't know how TB makes you fucking act.

Speaker 2:

I was like nobody's in that camera.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 2:

Maybe like they know better.

Speaker 1:

Well, maybe she's just fucked up. Man, I don't know how TB affects you. I don't, I won't ever pretend.

Speaker 2:

I do. I really have no idea.

Speaker 1:

But I think it's a fucked up story. I think the hotel's a fucked up place and I think it's fucked up if that the government just fucking just agged it on and didn't do anything ill. And this hotel was straight laced, fucking pretty as perfect, and there was nothing going on that was fucking sinister or shady here's my thing I get that, it's cheap, okay, but her parents seemed concerned check in with us every day.

Speaker 2:

you know you can go check us in, check in every day. We know you want to travel the world, blah, blah, blah. Fine, but even in my early 20s right, she was in her early 20s. Even then I feel like I would have never, ever said this hotel in Skid Row is the place I'm going to stay. There have to be other inexpensive, maybe not cheap, because I get that California is a different place 2013.

Speaker 1:

You're telling me you couldn't find a fucking Motel 8?. Right A fucking Wooly to light on for you. You had to stay downtown in this motherfucker no that you couldn't find a fucking Motel 8? Right, a fucking Wooly to light on for you. Like you had to stay downtown in this motherfucker no, you didn't.

Speaker 2:

My dad is the biggest like whatever you want to do kind of person, but if I told him I'm going to go stay in a hotel on Skid Row, he'd be like the fuck you are. Your dad would fuck me up he would show up and fuck me up in a heartbeat. Well, even at like 21, 22, 23, before we were even together. He would have been like I ain't worried about forward.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm worried about right now. If I was to call your dad and be like, hey, a man is going to la, she had a room at skid row. He'd be like you, let her fucking get a room at skid row. Be like, well, yeah, she wanted it and he would show up here and fucking want to fight me yeah, he is like the most like nonchalant, like live and let live person.

Speaker 2:

He'd be like I'm gonna tie you up in this room and keep you here. You will not it's not. Maybe it's the difference that maybe no maybe in 2013, her parents in canada didn't know what that was but that's okay, she knew, I don't know that was a.

Speaker 1:

Let me tell you something. Look, you can say whatever you want to say. I'm going to say it right now for everybody to hear there's songs about Skid Row right, this is my opinion, my opinion only that's a fucked up place.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You're a fucked up individual for going there. And if you think there was nothing sinister behind it.

Speaker 2:

You were fucked the hotel is a sinister place.

Speaker 1:

Because don't fucking tell me that they done made a goddamn AMC fucking movie called fucking the hotel. What's it called? What's that show with Lady Gaga? American Horror Story, Right About it and it didn't have zero fucking to do with it. Are you just going to shout without me? She's just going to shout without me, uh-huh. But you're going to tell me, me like she didn't watch that season no, I watched it one time it was about a serial killer okay, that's fine, richard no, it was about a detective that was trying to

Speaker 1:

solve a serial killer case and the first was about a fucking guy in a leather mask fucking his mom or some shit.

Speaker 2:

No, but kind of okay but the season did bring richard ramirez and it was kind of like this congregation of all these serial killers and crazy things that happen on Halloween. But the entire episode was about serial killers and vampires and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's fine, or season, you can't tell me they didn't make the whole season about nothing.

Speaker 2:

No, there's a reason.

Speaker 1:

Just that there's a reason people don't know about the mushroom mines. Right, because there's a fucking reason. But Lady Gaga didn't show up, you know why? Because that shit's fucking creepy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

The fucking Cecil not the Cecil, Not the. Cecil, I don't know where you get the Cecil at.

Speaker 2:

I have no idea.

Speaker 1:

The Cecil Hotel is a fucking creep fest. Yeah, it's in downtown fucking LA. It's right on fucking skid row. You've got all these homeless.

Speaker 2:

Now there may be an explanation to all these homeless people.

Speaker 1:

The great depression is really what started the homeless population fucking 22 that the homeless people are killing, fucking people yeah, fine, I'll believe that they're like a huge tuberculosis outbreak there, which is why they gave her the fucking tb test to spread it to the fucking homeless people, probably, but not to the government, because the fucking homeless people? Probably, but not to the government, because the government is straight-laced.

Speaker 2:

They're good people.

Speaker 1:

Let me tell you something. I've drunk enough of this. What's this stuff called again?

Speaker 2:

Montezuma tequila, silver tequila. Friends, it's not the yellow stuff I've just drank enough tequila.

Speaker 1:

I don't give a fuck. I'm telling you right now there's something shady with the Cecil Hotel. I don't give a fuck what you name it. You can name it Super 8.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You can name it 21C. You can name it the Cecil Redone. You can name it Cecil Hotel. You can name it the Mitch Kaiser fucking.

Speaker 2:

Invitational. If it had some purple penguins, I'm going. You can name it whatever you want to name it.

Speaker 1:

We don't have to stay, we're not going. Oh, I don't want to go, we're not going. I'm just saying if it's 21C I don't put my foot down a lot. We're not going to 21, cecil.

Speaker 2:

We're not doing it.

Speaker 1:

I would love for that to be the name of 21, cecil. We're not going to that motherfucker. You know why.

Speaker 2:

Just so you people know what we're penguins and they are these gigantic plastic penguins that are different colors for different cities. One of our first stays away from home. We booked a reservation at a hotel or not a hotel, but at a place to have dinner and we didn't know. But there was a penguin there and it was sitting at the table behind us with a couple and I was like that's weird and I'm going to be real honest Like we had had some like edibles.

Speaker 1:

We were hiring one of those we were. We were sitting two foot apart and thought we were like a year apart from each other.

Speaker 2:

Right. And then later, as we're eating, the penguin is maybe 20 feet from us and it's directed towards us and I was like dude, that penguin moved and I thought, like holy cow, like something's wrong with me she's not wrong so, um, our waiter, who mitchell called by the wrong name all night long, was very nice.

Speaker 2:

He calmed, okay, he calmed our dessert, um, because we said we were from the other side of the state and he was just excited we were visiting. He was super nice. But then, after we kind of came to our wits, we looked it up and it's this whole installment. It's like seven or eight hotels that have these restaurants, that have these penguins. So it's kind of my goal for us, now that I had told him and he was 1000 and on, I was like I want to see all the penguins. So we have been going.

Speaker 1:

Argo.

Speaker 2:

Our goal now. But I think I was probably the one that was like let's do this, and he was like I'm in adventures and shit, that's our thing.

Speaker 1:

Cincinnati Just recently Louisville.

Speaker 2:

Lexington, Cincinnati. Those are the three. We have been to Lexington.

Speaker 2:

Nashville in May, lexington nashville and may, nashville and may in lexington. We asked our waitress and she was like, oh, you just asked and she brought a penguin to us and literally blue, because uk blue. I mean like, come on, bleed blue. I'm not a huge sports fan but like my family is, so I will always bleed blue for them, whatever. Um, but it got us all the conversations with every single person that come in because there's blue penguin sub-eyes and it's super cool. Definitely look that up too. 21 C hotels, they've all got restaurants, they've all got penguins, different colors for different cities, and it's so freaking cool. And the people I worked with previously at the time when I tried to come back and tell them, they were like, well, you were stoned, so you're wrong. They bring you cotton candy at the end of your meal and they thought I was crazy because I was like they brought like a bowl of cotton candy to us the first time we were stoned and we thought that it was a fucking trick.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is not.

Speaker 2:

They just bring you cotton candy right the second time when we went, I sent pictures to the people I knew and I was like this is for real guys I'm gonna post some pictures of us.

Speaker 2:

We were at lexton, kentucky it's called the lockbox, which is attached to 21c and it is the coolest thing, like it's this little restaurant, and I definitely encourage you to go to the bathrooms because if you and say your partner goes to the bathroom one in the girls, one in the guys there's a button you can press and it makes the mirrors clear so you can see each other on the other side, because it's like so, dudes, leave your dongs out when you hit the button old bank. Is that what it is? I don't know like it's got like a vault it's so cool.

Speaker 1:

I just left my dong out and tried to show it off anyway, I digress I don't, I tried to do such.

Speaker 2:

Uh, nobody was on the other side but me so what I my point to this was that if the the cecil become the 21 cecil and they had some extra colored penguin, I would have to go see it so get online, look up 21 I don't want to stay there look up 21 c hotel online.

Speaker 1:

Just google 21 c. There are eight or ten different areas right lexington louisville, cincinnati. Uh, there's some out west there's nashville, there may be even one overseas I haven't.

Speaker 2:

We looked it up. There was not overseas.

Speaker 1:

They're all in the united states, so we are actually going to nashville to my wife's favorite podcast obituary which isn't ours. She doesn't favor ours as much she does. Obituary listen. It got me to where I wanted to podcast, like so we're gonna go see name them, and what's the names? Spencer, henry spencer and madison, and madison in may at zanes and zany's in nashville uh, and there's a ton once in nashville, we're gonna catch so I'm 1000, like if you were into what we listen to.

Speaker 2:

Obituary Podcast is the two of them.

Speaker 1:

Catch it.

Speaker 2:

He also has a second called Cult Leader, like L-I-T-E-R, like water.

Speaker 1:

Like a liter of soda.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're amazing. And initially I was like being fancy and had my lashes done once and the lady was like, can I listen to this? And I was like sure, and you know, we talk a little bit about our kids. But my oldest, like I, was real young and we kind of grew up together, so when she played this podcast it was kind of like listening to my oldest talk, listening to our oldest talk, and I was like holy cow, I love this guy and ever since then I've been a huge fan. So it would be cool. Hopefully we'll get to meet them. We're gonna send them some dumbass criminals it is a very good podcast it is they're so phenomenal?

Speaker 1:

amanda my wife into podcasting. I've podcasted before, but is what got her into the?

Speaker 2:

the idea of doing it myself right and so we very much.

Speaker 1:

Uh, what's the word?

Speaker 2:

we maybe not look up, but we admire what they're doing, yeah we're going to see their live podcast in may in in nashville and if you don't have tickets or you're in a city close, like look them up, because they got tons of locations, they're on tour right now and look them up and like get your, get you some tickets and go see them because they're so funny at one point.

Speaker 1:

We are on that same level yeah, we are pushing every day to be there. So we are trying very hard, but you yourself do the research on the Cecil Hotel because it is crazy the things that happen there.

Speaker 2:

Like I don't ever think I want to go to Skid Row, but it's kind of one of those places that I'm like.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm taking her.

Speaker 2:

I'm like they do bus tours or like different city tours, and I'm like I'd totally do one of those because that's safe, right, Like I'd love to see it. I don't want to stay there.

Speaker 1:

Nothing safe about that by any means.

Speaker 2:

But it's kind of like the times I've went to DC and done tours Like let's go do a tour, let's do a walking tour, like we did in Cincinnati Maybe not a walking tour, but like a tour Whatever, no walking.

Speaker 1:

So let's break it down. Cecil Hotel Creepy, crazy Sinister.

Speaker 2:

Definitely A lot of crazy shit Death.

Speaker 1:

Check out my girl Eliza Lamb Lamb.

Speaker 2:

E-L-I-S-A-L-A-M.

Speaker 1:

There you go. Look her up, look up the conspiracies with her, look up the fucking videos with her.

Speaker 2:

I promise everything you find is going to have this video attached.

Speaker 1:

Yes, look up the elevator video. It's not normal shit. I get that maybe she was off her meds, but fuck man, something else was going on it's wild uh, anyway, the black daga stayed there, our first episode which blows my mind yeah uh, we're gonna be back with you next week with something new.

Speaker 2:

Something new, something requested from our very first patreon.

Speaker 1:

Uh listener so, uh, amanda always tells me all this stuff and I go just ramble on about it, but I'm going to tell you anyway. We're live on Patreon. We're live on YouTube, instagram, facebook.

Speaker 2:

Anywhere you listen to podcasts.

Speaker 1:

There you go, any of the podcast platforms. Our Patreon is super cheap $3 and $5.

Speaker 2:

And currently, if you get on there now, you'll get to the little ditty of Amanda doing a little snack dance video that she didn't know I posted until about three hours ago, right, and listen, I'm going to tell you right now that when you get on there because I'm going to just assume you're going to get on the look Right when you get on there and watch this video, I get that what I'm wearing is hideous Pajamas, pajamas. And that my sweatshirt was like $14 from Walmart.

Speaker 1:

I want one.

Speaker 2:

But if you don't have a hoodie that has a zipper pocket, you have no idea what you're missing. I don't care if you wear it out of the house, but when you're in the house it's so handy.

Speaker 1:

It was the dancing to the John party, but she does a little ditty.

Speaker 2:

I had no idea who John party was, honestly Well listen.

Speaker 1:

The thing about the Patreon is we're about to post behind the scenes, we're going to get extra footage, q&as, extra episodes. All that stuff is going to come with the.

Speaker 2:

Patreon.

Speaker 1:

It's where you're going to get the things that you want, the stuff we really don't want to post online, and we're going to post for you guys.

Speaker 2:

It's going to come to Patreon.

Speaker 1:

Currently, youtube is audio only, but we're about to start filming and we're going to start doing our own filming of the podcast, so every episode will be filmed and that's going to be posted to Facebook. We just need subscribers YouTube, youtube, sorry, youtube. So we just need subscribers on the YouTube to see that, and we understand if you don't subscribe now, but at some point we got to get you on there, that's right. Uh, what else? I'm just going to social media because that's what runs the world.

Speaker 2:

Don't forget to check our girl out at Appalachian spooky hour Samantha Arthur's Give her a listen, give her a shout out, share her stuff If you like it if you don't like it. Move on, Leave her be because it's amazing.

Speaker 1:

Don't say mean shit, don't be a dick.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

Also check my boy out, Matt Cotta, with.

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FleabCorpcom.

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FleabCorpcom for all you extreme sports and skateboarders.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Atomic Soul Art.

Speaker 1:

Corey. Shepard Music because we are obsessed with the theme song, obsessed I will tell you something we say every episode. We're not going to shout about it like we do, but it is very important to do that Because that's important to people To help other people out. I always will support friends who support us, just like you do Any of our friends who support us we're going to support. I don't know anybody that supports this fucking shit ass.

Speaker 2:

tequila Montezuma don't support that.

Speaker 1:

Montezuma tequila.

Speaker 2:

But I'm going to be real honest. I want to support the people that are worth supporting. Let me tell you who's worth supporting?

Speaker 1:

Samantha Arthurs, corey Shepard, autumn Cottle, matt Cottle, mary Cottle. Who else? And by that he's talking about all the people we just mentioned? Yeah, that's right, atomic. So Art Yep, corey Shepard, music Fleabow Corp, appalachian Spooky Hour, and us and us. So check it out, check everybody out. Fuck the big guys, support the little people. And we'll see you next time right, wait, let's do another shot while we're talking to them.

Speaker 2:

I'm out.

Speaker 1:

I got another shot while we're talking to them. I'm out, I got, I got a whole, I got a fucking.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna have some. What about tequila? I'm gonna have some angry orchard while you have your last shot of tequila. She said my last shot, no, for the podcast maybe, and then we're gonna sign off. I'm gonna do some more research listen folks.

Speaker 1:

We do appreciate you listening. Check us out on facebook instagram wherever you listen to your podcast. All you have to search is Drunken Darkness. I don't care what fucking social media you're on. If you search Drunken Darkness, you'll find us. You'll find us. We're going to pop up, that's right. We need YouTube subscribers, we need Patreon subscribers, we need it all Because we're growing it right.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

We're coming out and we're getting where we're going. We do thank you all for listening, though. We do Because it has been fun, and if it wasn't fun, we wouldn't do it.

Speaker 2:

And I can't wait until next time, because we're going to do something a little different.

Speaker 1:

Next time we're going live Not live, but we're going to like.

Speaker 2:

We're going local.

Speaker 1:

Local. We're going to take pictures and videos and we're going to post them.

Speaker 2:

But those are going to be Patreon guys.

Speaker 1:

That's right, bitch. Pay your $3. It's $3. Don't give me no bullshit. You pay $3 for a fucking hot dog at Dairy Queen.

Speaker 2:

For real.

Speaker 1:

We just paid $41 for three of us to eat, so you can pay three bucks to get some fucking weird ass pictures of my wife dancing to fucking John Party or me dancing John Party in a weird skimpy outfit. You don't know what you'll see.

Speaker 2:

Not that I promise you don't know that.

Speaker 1:

Here we go. This is to you guys, my shot at the kid and her angry orchard.

Speaker 2:

That's right, and we'll see you next week. Until then, with some local things, and we can't wait.

Speaker 1:

Until then Stay weird.

Speaker 2:

Stay what I don't know, stay weird.

Speaker 1:

Stay weird. We'll see you next week. Thanks for listening. Bye, see you guys.

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